These Days
November 18, 2007
Lifes Rich Pageant marks the beginning of R.E.M.’s blatantly political period. Admirably, R.E.M. didn’t leap into the deep end of facile sloganeering, but instead crafted lyrics that mixed social/political critiques with an expression of optimistic idealism and self-aware humility. “These Days” in particular comes off like a rock n’ roll stump speech, with Michael Stipe semi-coherently hitting all of his talking points and selling us on his vision without letting us know exactly what that might entail. Applying the aesthetics of a political speech to a rock song is a brilliant move, especially when you consider that there’s quite a lot in common between hitting the campaign trail and touring in support of an album. The most important effect of “These Days” is that without saying all that much, it makes the listener believe that the band is extremely passionate about something, and that mysterious something involves imagining a better future. Throughout the song, the emphasis is placed on inclusiveness, to the point of mocking its own starry-eyed sincerity when Michael claims “we have many things in common, name three,” and the rest of the band sing “three, three, three!” in reply. The humor is absolutely necessary — without an acknowledgment of its irony, the song would actually seem a bit disingenuous.
November 18, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Is that Mike Mills that sings “three! three! three!”?? When listening on headphones, I’ve always heard it as Mike, then Bill, and then Michael each singing one of the threes…
A great song.
November 18, 2007 at 2:03 pm
you, me, you, if i can, and i can…
greatness, slamming, urgent, nice guitar licks…like little america on low grade speed.
there’s a certain level of bizarreness in these old skool political songs missing from ignoreland, revolution, ats-stuff..happy throngs take this joy? ok, if you say so!
November 18, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Great song, classic REM- I agree that the mix of self-aware humour and seriousness really makes it. (this mix works nicely on Tourfilm as Mike holds up his fingers to emphasise that this song has THREE main points, on which you will be tested).
‘We are young despite the years, we are concerned, we are hope despite the times.’ It’s a heady mix of gritty realism (about something, whatever it is…) and optimism. Fine work indeed.
Is it really ‘I wish to eat each one you’? (as lyrics archive says). I’ve always sung (shouted, bellowed, keened…) ‘I wish to MEET each one of you…’- which is a striking thought when Michael sings it in the large venues of the Green Tour during his World Leader Pretend coming-to-terms-with-and-learning-to enjoy/manipulate-being-a-star period. He may wish to meet each one- but, alternatively, he could turn you inside out if he chooses to. Maybe it is ‘eat each one’ after all…
November 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm
OOOOOOWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAALLL
YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
roll the bones
he can meet and eat whoever he damn well pleases
November 18, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Brilliant song. One of my all-time favourites. Never fails to satisfy. Great to sing and shout along to, great to jump about to.
I’d never thought about it before but as MP says in his review, this song manages to be positive, passionate and somehow meaningful even though the lyrics are quite vague. I always feel some swell of emotion when singing along with ‘These Days’ – “we are hope despite the times” gives me a feeling of empowerment when belted out at the top of my voice.
And in response to milesy, I always thought it was “meet” and not “eat”. But I’ll listen to the track carefully soon just to see if “eat” is the word used later in the song.
November 18, 2007 at 5:33 pm
My first reaction as I read Milesy’s comments was – Of course it’s meet! Then after a little thought I suppose it could be eat, this is REM after all. I think I’ll stick with singing Meet though.
I don’t have much to add that hasn’t already been said. I absolutely LOVE the music, but i’m not sure what it is about it that I love. I suppose it’s just all good! And I was going to write a favourite line, but I couldn’t pick one – there’s too many highlights! Great song. Great REM. Hope for more like this on the new album.
November 18, 2007 at 5:40 pm
i think it’s alternating between “meet” and “eat”, and i love mike’s closing line “take away the scattered bones of my meal”, which clearly makes reference to the “eat” line. very tongue-in-cheek in a sly, smart, twist of phrase kind of way (only surpassed by the clever play on “pilgrimage” with “your luck…” *lyrical pause, cymbal hit instead, taking you off-guard*). not to mention, this song is vibrant, punky, funny and fun to sing along to!
November 18, 2007 at 6:07 pm
2d, That makes perfect sense that they would switch between the two. Especially as it does fit in with that last line and the first line – “Now I’m not feeding off you”. I’m happy with that answer and will sing meet the first time and eat the second.
November 18, 2007 at 6:44 pm
…I will re-arrange your scales…
I always really liked:
I had a hat and it sunk, reached down,
yanked it up, slapped it on my head
I think it was this songa dn Stipes performance of it on the Green tour that earned him some comparisons to John Lydon at the time.
He did have a ‘tasmanian devil’ thing happening on this one. You know, from the cartoon?
And I always heard an eat in there as well.
November 18, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Love this album. The energy and vitality. How fantastic are these first three songs? Begin the Begin, These Days and Fall on Me (my favorite song by anyone, anywhere)? Really, the rest of the album could be Sophie B Hawkins mewling into a microphone and it would still be a great album. Perhaps it is largely on the strength of the first three that make this my favorite album. I think my second fav is Green and that, (Pop Song 89, Get up, Your are the Everything) is probably the only album that comes close to kick your ass with three straight great songs to start an album. Fables is nice (Feeling Gravitys Pull, Maps and Legends, Driver
but it lacks the song that just kicks your ass out of bed in the morning, (Like Get up or These Days or Begin the Begin.
Best Lyrics:
We are young despite the years we are concern
We are hope despite the times
All of the sudden, these days
Happy throngs, take this joy wherever, wherever you go.
November 18, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Ok so Driver 8 can’t end a parenthetical without getting an emoticon . . .
November 18, 2007 at 7:55 pm
ahem…Document?
November 18, 2007 at 8:02 pm
ahem…Monster?
November 18, 2007 at 8:06 pm
I didn’t know it at the time but it was brought to my attention in the post of ‘unseen power of the picket fence’. The ‘march into the ocean, march into the sea’ line was a reference to Sherman’s march.
The things you learn!
So who is the character being played in the song? He wants your vote but he doesn’t have your best interests at heart. The shakers in the instrumental section imply a rattlesnake. Is it re-arranging or being re-arranged? Or shedding it’s skin?
November 18, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Gone out for the day, come in, and find that everyone has said everything already about one of your favourite songs already. Why I… Still mustn’t grumble, I am young despite the years…
Just, what a gobsmackingly great song. LRP is my favourite album and this follow-up punch after Begin the Begin is awesome. You’ve all said what I wanted to say. Agree with Paul Alferink about best lyrics. I like the ambiguity – I am young, despite the years – has two meanings to me. I am young (at heart), despite living many years AND I am young (and optimistic, full of ideas), despite these years I live in (which are negative and devoid of ideas).
Also, this song is an example of the break-it-down middle 8 of song writing. Instead of a solo or another part or a key change, the instruments peal away and then build up together for the third verse. And for me, it works very well and pre-empts Orange Crush which also does this with Michael shouting through a megaphone over the break-it-down middle 8. I think These Days could have been on Green for a number of reasons, but I’m not one to question the wisdom of the gods and I am very happy with where it is, thank you very much.
November 18, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Er, and while agreeing with Paul’s point that LRP is the best for first 3 songs… I will second Kirsten’s ahem.
November 18, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Fantastic song, and it seems like they’ve revisited this state of mind. The new material has an urgency not heard on an R.E.M. album since this era, but of course it’s all about moving forward, not looking back.
I can barely wait for the new album, but in the meantime I’ll just put on this song and sing along. Does it to me every time.
November 18, 2007 at 9:29 pm
I think I might get into it in “Begin the Begin,” but I think one of the really awesome things about Lifes Rich Pageant is that the first four songs are like these perfect archetypes of a first, second, third, and fourth song on a rock album.
November 18, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Oh, while admitting we should let sleeping dogs lie and not wanting to flog dead horses, remember the discussion following MP’s “Leaving New York” post where many pointed out that “Leaving was never my proud” was grammatically incorrect. “We are concern” is surely also incorrect… It should be we are concerned or is he saying that they embody the definition of “concern”? My point is that the proud lyric from LNY never jumped out at me as being a real problem, because lyrics are slippery things, especially in the hands of Mr.Stipe, and I don`t think they need to stand up to exact grammatical scrutiny. Or am I missing the point?
And with this little rant as an aside I feel like I could be Scott “Bisky the Doormat” Malobisky……. (no offence to either Scott or Binky intended).
It’s tired and I’m late.
November 18, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I’m glad you put the 4th in there Matthew. It is quite an imposing start isn’t? It’s making me rethink my long held devotion to Document. I fluctuate between the two but usually settle on Document if pushed for an all time fave. Fall On Me trumps anything on it though.
November 18, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Maclure, the problem with “leaving was never my proud” is not necessarily that it is grammatically terrible, but that it sounds clunky and weird in context. “We are concern” — or “we are concerned,” as I hear it, but nevermind — flows really well with the song, it doesn’t really stick out. I can think of loads of examples of great songs where words are used incorrectly, or grammar is thrown out the window, so that’s not really my bias.
November 18, 2007 at 10:05 pm
I think that in this context “concern” could be taken as a noun…
November 19, 2007 at 12:13 am
I love LRP and this song for me has always been solid, bit I don’t love it. Not sure why, its thunderous RAWK and has a cool lyric, just doesn’t move me emotionally, only musically. That likely does not make any sense.
November 19, 2007 at 12:38 am
Absolutely fantastic song from an absolutely fantastic album.
These Days is in my R.E.M. top 5 for sure.
November 19, 2007 at 12:58 am
Kicks ass live!
November 19, 2007 at 2:40 am
’bout the “first four” thing (which works for me as well, definitely, even if I’m not really that big a fan of “Fall On Me”, it just works in context of the album) – to me it’s more a “first five” thing, that studio of Hyena is great and really recalls the opening two. those five first songs being continued in a good way would easily make it my favourite album, but I suppose (to me) LRP would have worked better as an EP…
November 19, 2007 at 3:55 am
A stoney silence has come over me…
November 19, 2007 at 9:06 am
A great song from a great album. One of REM’s “Finest Hours”. LRP at the time was a real departure from their previous albums. Much heavier, more political. Can’t say enough good things about it.
November 19, 2007 at 11:48 am
maclure , I like your insightful comments about the middle 8 as opposed to a more typical key change or bridge sorta approach…”where’s that confounded bridge?” .That song ‘Badge’ by CREAM got it’s name cuz’ one of the band members saw “bridge” on the music sheet , thought it said “badge”…….This is my favorite REM song , well it was at that specific moment but now it’s a couple of moments later , a white line to the end of time it’s what you are or are you just another line in the field of time???????
November 19, 2007 at 2:23 pm
perhaps the greatest REM tune of all.. glad to see it still surfaces live. perhaps the greatest musical moment of my life.. the first song of ‘86 Pageantry tour 1st song THESE DAYS.. such rock and roll punch – very stipe dance moves .. the best.
November 19, 2007 at 3:18 pm
“…very stipe dance moves”
– Wow, first there’s the grammatical comments on “we are concern” and now we see “stipe” as an adjective. Very trendy use of our language.
I wish I could have seen this band in 1986 to see most of this album performed live. The raw energy and urgency of songs like this one make it my clear favorite REM album. It’s also makes it in my top 5 albums of all time.
About “These days” — I love the music and the way the lines about “the hat” just flow, but can anyone translate that into anything meaningful? (I’m talking about — “I had a hat and it sunk, reached down, yanked it up, slapped it on my head”).
November 19, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I know he had a hat on live when performing.. that black hat – with the messy hair pouring out.. there was a great huge photo in the LA TIMES for the review of the show at the then Irvine Meadows amphitheatre.. rainy night.. they opened with Have you Ever seen the Rain.. followed by These Days.
November 19, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Matthew,
You changed the posting–unless I imagined the reference to Mike Mills singing “three!three!three!” But no one’s answered my question: who actually sings the “three!three!three!”?
And as for the “first four” and “first five” posts, it seems to me we’re just a bunker away from just saying that Side One of LRP is perfect!
Love all the postings!
November 19, 2007 at 6:54 pm
I HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE
when in this song he sings about “beat you off” with masturbation, is that political mastuerbation (I suck you you vote for me) or normal sensual masterubation with the hand?
I always wondered with this song I have many questions.
Exclude my English please, I do not liv ine America and bush is an idiot so I never will unless he dies
–Andy
From FINLAND
November 19, 2007 at 6:57 pm
This song always reminds me “Begin the Begin”; something about the drive of it and the guitar line and the feelings it invokes are very reminiscent of BtB.
I love the ending of this song: “…whereever, whereEVER – YOU! – GOOO-OOO-OOO!” It’s like he just couldn’t let go of or ground the energy in it. Great to shout along to!
November 19, 2007 at 7:04 pm
stipey
stipe as an adverb
this is the new stuff
I come dancing in
November 19, 2007 at 7:14 pm
one of my favorites from one of my favorite cds.
Does anyone have a take on what the whole
“I had a hat I put it down and it sunk, reached down,
Yanked it up, slapped it on my head”
I know not every lyric means something, but I have never really known what that line represented.
November 19, 2007 at 7:15 pm
sorry, Lenny, I see you asked the same thing. I will second your question!
November 19, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Keep your hat on your head……..
November 19, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Eclipse: I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. If I start singing one in my head, I often end up singing the other. There is something very similar about the two songs. Luckily, they’re both really good, so it doesn’t matter.
Second your thought on the great ending, too.
November 19, 2007 at 8:08 pm
I don’t really think it means anything….but my such energy and animation in a couple of lines about a hat , eh ?…Ain’t seen such excitement in a freaking hat since the leopard skin pill-box variety… I like in Tourfilm , the way Stipe fails the Sobriety Test at the edge of the stage then starts spinning like a whirling dervish while flailing like an antelope that jumped from a building.
November 19, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Yup, the 1-2 punch and then Fall On Me saw them just firing on all cylinders. Top of their game stuff (one of their peaks if no the highest). ‘Begin’ had them doing Rock! for perhaps the first time but not bad Rock! but still with mystery and mantra. ‘These Days’ sounded like a rally cry to me. A statement for some kind of revolution (‘We are young. We are concern. We are hope’). I thought Stipe was singing ‘take this choice wherever, wherever you go’ Empowerment. Individualism, change, well..hope.
Damn fine sounds indeed. I agree, that 1-2-3 (4-5-etc) punch stands as one of the finest ever.
November 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Adam,I saw a few shows at Irvine Ampitheater .Iron Maiden with WASP and T&A as the opening acts for one…….I remember slam dancing and rolling down the hill in the mud slop. I was a crazy animal…it was ‘86 and I hadnt a whiff of REM
November 19, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Change…is what I believe in…
For me the hat thing is change. Maybe it’s too obvious but it ties in with the rattlesnake stuff as well, shedding skin. Or it’s based on this one time at band camp when Stipes hat fell off and he picked it up, put it back on. Crazy times.
November 19, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I thought the “Hat” line was along the lines of “I’ll trip, fall, pick myself up and walk unafraid”.
November 19, 2007 at 8:28 pm
But where’s the change? He picks it up & puts it back on and keeps on going, same as before.
November 19, 2007 at 8:31 pm
And what’s with all the youth references on LRP?
We are young, despite the years.
I’m so young, I’m so God Damn Young!
When I was young and fever fell, my spirit I will not tell.
And I think there’s one more, but I can’t think of it…
November 19, 2007 at 8:36 pm
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH we are the youth gone wild AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
leaving was never my Miles Standish proud
November 19, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Clearly the hat is a reference to Sir William Edgar, the inventor of the top hat and celebrated in his time as a damn fine fellow. It is also a sly play on the french word Chapeau, as the french are well known for their love of all things headware. And remember there might be acid rain.’ Course you have to keep your ‘hat’ up on top when home is a long way awaaaaayyyyyy.
November 19, 2007 at 9:07 pm
clearly
November 19, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Yes, fair point Kirsten. The opportunity to change was there to try a new hat on. But he didn’t. Put the same one back on. Like a rattlesnake. Keeps the same skin. Don’t look for me reason, it’s not fair I can’t even type!
Youth references….it’s about 22 years since it came out remember
As an aside, I was going to let it go but I didn’t sleep very well last night with this injustice hanging over me:
Life’s Rich Pageant. An Ep. AN EP??????!!!!!
Have you no decency Sir?
November 19, 2007 at 11:17 pm
“We are concern” is what I was up all night thinking about. Luckily it was probably too hot to sleep anyway. It’s still giving me a headache, but I’m relatively sure I’m right. I think. I’ve got LRP to listen to tonight on my way home from work, so I’ll think about it whilst listening to it. That might help.
November 19, 2007 at 11:18 pm
On the topic of the LRP EP, I’m curious as to which songs you would cut JFT.
November 20, 2007 at 1:01 am
Happy Thongs
Take this Joy
Wherever you go
November 20, 2007 at 7:21 am
Life imitates art. This post and this thread are like a long, youthful, at times non-sensical, raucous, joyful expression of something… it’s what These Days would look like if it were a blog.
November 20, 2007 at 8:51 am
I’m laughing hysterically at Mr Cup’s comment… “Have you no decency sir?” I had the same reaction — an EP??? WTF?? JFT would be absolutely mobbed over at the swings for that blasphemy. Also, Mr Cup, I think it’s happy throngs, not happy thongs (despite how happy thongs would be).
BTW – Thanks for all the “hat” comments, everyone. I like the acid rain bit. Well, rain could be a factor, because the line said the hat “sunk”, which implies that water was somehow involved. But it’s probably more of an abstract concept instead — I think it means he had an idea (since the hat was on his head), he faced some resistance, and it got shot down, but he is staying true to what he believes by putting the hat back on. “…yanked it up, slapped it on my head” implies that this act was done with some defiance, as if to say, no one is ever going to make me stop believing what I believe. OK, that’s enough… my throat hurts, and my shirt is wearing thin.
November 20, 2007 at 8:54 am
About Monsters three:
Okay, firstly, King of Comedy is a weak song. So it gets eliminated. And while WTF,K easily equals Begin the Begin as a fantastic first song that sets the records tone, that leave Crush w/ Eyeliner in a steel cage grudge match with FALL ON ME, for godssakes! Listens, I can cite evidence that Fall on me is REM’s greatest song. Firstly, I wrote it up there in an earlier post (Alferink 10). Secondly, Michael Stipe said it (Stipe 91), and I pretty sure he was high when he called any other REM song his favorite song.
Works Cited:
Alferink, Paul “Why Fall on Me Kicks so Much Ass, and your song isn’t as good” Pops Songs ‘89 ED: Matthew Perpetua 2007.
Stipe, Michael “MTV Unplugged” New York 1991
See! I cited everything, that means you can’t argue!
And for Document, I never like Finest Worksong as much as everyone else, but I’ll grant you that most people would put it at least on par with Begin the Begin. But Welcome to the Occupation is a little weak. And Exhuming McCarthy runs into Fall on Me (see above).
November 20, 2007 at 9:18 am
Well said, Paul. LRP gets my vote for the best 3 songs to open an album (and the best 12 for that matter).
I think the toughest competition (for tracks 1-2-3) actually comes from Automatic for the People, not Monster or Document. I love the opening three of AFTP, but #2 is where Try Not to Breathe still falls quite a bit short of These Days.
November 20, 2007 at 11:24 am
Feeling Gravity’s Pull, Maps And Legends, Driver 8.
The pulled that stunt just a year before LRP, and guess what: it f***in’ works, at least for me!
November 20, 2007 at 11:27 am
It seems so obvious and unoriginal… but, Radio Free Europe, Pilgramage, Laughing, anyone?
November 20, 2007 at 11:28 am
That, of course, would be PilgrImage…
November 20, 2007 at 11:31 am
BTW, I’m starting to enjoy this kind of tag-team approach where we put songs in a ring, and let them fight it out. I find myself wondering what would happen if Wendell Gee took on Old Man Kensey…
November 20, 2007 at 12:09 pm
….well , it depends , which one of them thar roosters got a sharper pecker ?………..(lenny , Mr. Cup was joking me thinks…..about the happy thongs …happy tongs …a happy Chinese Association Society or the kitchenware of shiny happy people?)
November 20, 2007 at 12:39 pm
speaking of roosters…
Swan Swan Hummingbird vs. Heron House (or King of Birds)
November 20, 2007 at 12:45 pm
I used to play the computer game Worms into the wee hours of the night in my teens… (does anyone know what I’m talking about?). Anyway, you could name the characters in your team of worms what you wanted and they would fight it out against other teams. I had a team of REM characters. Wendall Gee and Old Man Kensey were prominant members along with Lenny Bruce, Andy Kaufman and Miles Standish. So, that’s not exactly what you’re talking about, I know, Milesy, but I can confirm these worms carried a mean punch and more or less held their own against other teams. Against each other? My money’s on Old Man Kensey…
I still say Monster has a great opening 3 (actually, a perfect first 6 in my opinion). Its true I can’t compete with Alferinks citations and Fall in Me is sort of unbeatable, but King of Comedy is such an underrated song. One of my 3 faves from Monster.
November 20, 2007 at 12:47 pm
can’t kill the rooster, this from the man in the box, down in a hole
November 20, 2007 at 3:08 pm
can anyone tell me what the great thing about “fall on me” is? i mean, it’s not a bad song, but… i just feel no difference, i even think it to be one of the not-so-good songs of the i.r.s. years, but it seems almost everyone else thinks different.
well, maybe we’ll come back to this when “Fall On Me” is discussed…
November 20, 2007 at 3:12 pm
I think the best opening trifecta has to be (…drum roll please …) Fables of the Reconstuction! Although if I was doing my ultimate REM 3-song album opener it would be:
1. Drive
2. Losing My Religion
3. Orange Crush
For some reason those three songs have always fit together for me and I always start out REM mix CD’s with that holy trilogy of songs.
November 20, 2007 at 3:14 pm
jft, I don’t know man, for me Fall On Me, Driver 8, and So. Central Rain are the apex of the IRS years and the archetypal songs of the REM sound.
November 20, 2007 at 3:49 pm
hmn…
Driver 8 is just great. So. Central Rain is really, really good. Fall On Me is… okay
just my opinion, will stop about that for now
best opening 2: LRP; best opening 4: close one between FOTR and AFTP =)
November 20, 2007 at 3:55 pm
jft, as you say, no doubt we’ll come back to Fall On Me. But for the time being, great things about it would be (in no particular order):
lyrics
backing vocals
bridge
opening guitar notes
drums
etc
For me, it’s close to perfect, I have to admit. Yep, ‘Here’s another song… this is my favourite song…’
PS I think the accoustic versions from around 1991 serve to emphasize what a great song this is.
November 20, 2007 at 4:09 pm
best opener: “the lifting”
best 1-2: “what’s the frequency, kenneth?” / “crush with eyeliner”
best 1-2-3: “radio free europe” / “pilgrimage” / “laughing”
best 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8: “begin the begin” / “these days” / “fall on me” / “cuyahoga” / “hyena” / “underneath the bunker” / “the flowers of guatemala” / “i believe” (this song combo is just perfect)
November 20, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Ha ha. Really enjoying some of the irrelevant comments ever since Kirsten asked jft which songs he’d cut to make an EP out of LRP. Interestingly, jft has come back but HASN’T given us his EP line-up.
I’m spending far too long at the moment (or dare I say “these days”?) painting walls in my apartment, but it does give me the excuse to listen to a lot of CDs while I do it. So purely for research purposes (with no intentions of enjoying the music, of course) I gave LRP a spin last night. It was even the special version featuring a handful of bonus tracks such as “All I Have to Do is Dream” and “Toys in the Attic”. A thoroughly enjoyable listen – even after hearing all EIGHTEEN tracks I wanted more!
I’ll agree with jft that the album gets weaker as it goes along. I think REM themselves would admit that. After all, as many books on the subject have reported, the band were actually short of original material going into the recording sessions. Hence, we get several old songs and a cover version. But what the hey? The whole album works, in my opinion. Fresh, bright, catchy, serious moments, throwaway moments… I love it the way it is and it sounds like most of the other bloggers do too. I wouldn’t change anything about it.
November 20, 2007 at 4:16 pm
And on the subject of REM and computer games, maclure – and who would have thought this could ever be a subject for discussion? – you have reminded me of my younger brother (who is also crazy about REM).
Years and years ago he had a soccer video game and I remember his team was always called Chronic Town.
And, yes… I do remember Worms, so you’re not alone there.
November 20, 2007 at 5:17 pm
oh, i didn’t actually read Kirsten’s comment about my “LRP EP” – so here it is:
1. Begin The Begin
2. These Days
3. Hyena
4. Underneath The Bunker
5. Cuyahoga
6. The Flowers Of Guatemala
well… and then release “I Believe” as a standalone single with “Swan Swan H” as a b-side… and maybe a live version of “Fall On Me”
and not that I dislike the album, but I think it’s the least constant of r.e.m.s outputs…
November 20, 2007 at 6:05 pm
JFT, that sounds like a hell of a lot of back-peddelling to me! It seems like there’s only 3 songs you don’t like, and that’s not too bad for an album of 12. Can’t believe you’d kick off “Just A Touch”! One of their best rockers! On reflection, I’ve decided to agree with narcizo. Even though Murmur would be my favourite album, and the first 3 of Monster rock, the first 3 songs on Fables is probably the best. (But I may change my mind tomorrow with my mood!)
I also named computer game characters after the band in my younger years (and I probably still would). I’ve also named 2 budgies Bill (may he rest in peace)and Kenneth.
And for the record, Kenzie would kick Wendell Gee’s ass! I think he’d be an angry drunk and probably wouldn’t fight fair. I always pictured Wendle Gee as a skinny, weak old man – he’d have no chance!
November 20, 2007 at 6:36 pm
jft , I agree with you about Fall On Me , think it’s great but NOT THAT GREAT, (the potent chord change part is very affecting I will say that).
I always thought that These Days was , “we have many things in common, they increase” , which wouldv’e been very appropriately empathetic with no need for humor.
November 20, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Wendell Gee would have a chance with Mr. Cup watching his blindside.
November 20, 2007 at 6:57 pm
perhaps I should just shut up unless I get in trouble with what I’ve said and what I’ve not said
Kirsten, well (somehow you’re right, I must admit)… I just tried to make a (to me) convincing EP, which actually works as a mini-album (which LRP as an album doesn’t do for me). Fall On Me would just become an extra track for all of those who admire it that much – Swan Swan H is really great, just doesn’t fit there – I Believe, at its place in LRP, is not really a part of the album, so I would exclude it. But WIWGIA?, JAT an Superman are placed so significant in the second half, that one gets the impression that side B is made out of fillers, even if it isn’t.
so, I should go back to my maths…
November 20, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Damn Straight!
November 20, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Another REM match-up I’d like to see – Airportman vs. Lightnin Hopkins. Airportman would be too doped up and half asleep to get past the first round…
November 20, 2007 at 7:49 pm
What about tag teams?
Orange Crush With Eyeliner v Fall On Me In Honey
November 20, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Two rocking songs like Orange Crush With Eyeliner would easily beat the wimpy, slow Fall On Me In Honey. Where’s the contest?
Airportman has security to protect him, but Lingtnin Hopkins can shoot lighnin from the palm of his hand, so he’d win.
I’ve spent WAY too much time and effort into this…..
November 20, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Do we have enough room down at those swings Mr Cup, or do we need to relocate to the MCG??
November 20, 2007 at 8:06 pm
There has to be a film in this somewhere.
Help, my favourite songs aren’t getting on. they are fighting one another. I really love Wendell Gee but I don’t think he stands a chance against the rather ambitious Ol’ Man Kinsey!
The soundtrack a mash up like Figgy says:
‘I’ve got my spine I’ve got my orange crush with eyeliner’
November 20, 2007 at 8:23 pm
“…there’s a lot of honey in this world …but what is it up in the air for?”
Yeah, this soundtrack could be great.
November 20, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Hmm Kirsten I was going to say I have had a few thoughts morning:
1) these blogs often bloom at night
2) I’m gonna feel like the 300 vs the persian army as after I’ve dealt with the ‘Dissappear’ fanciers it’ll be game on with the admires of ‘WTF, Kenneth’. That is if Begin the Begin or Finest Worksong don’t stomp it’s sorry arse beforehand. Hang on – Radio Free Europe’s coming over the top and looks positively rabid! Go Boy!
I’ll be putting on extra lemonade either way.
There was more…but if I don’t get down to the beach soon, I won’t be my usual calm tolerant self.
November 20, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Great mental image.
November 20, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Oh just quickly, to give figgy something to do instead of his renovations…
Had an idea for a song where you sample all the ‘yeah, yeahs’ in REM songs and creat a new song which consiste exclusively of..yeahs.
Ignoreland. Man on the Moon. Sweetness Follows. The Ascent of Man.
Whos’e got cut and paste skills?
November 20, 2007 at 8:34 pm
The fantasy tan and the abs?
November 20, 2007 at 8:43 pm
The other thing…I was wondering, just quietly, how Matthew is going to write up Fall On Me. He does make a special effort when it comes to these jewels in the crown type songs.
Not that there’s any pressure from us for him to do so.
Much.
(Mrs Cup at this point drags Mr Cup by the ear away from whatever this internet thingy is. Good riddance to. The antagoising little bugger.)
November 20, 2007 at 8:46 pm
don’t forget the yeah’s of “revolution”, “let me in” and “departure”!
November 20, 2007 at 8:50 pm
No Mr Cup, that was in reply to Figgy with the Honey in the air. You just posted something at the same time as me. But isn’t that one of the beautful things about the internet? There’s no reason for anyone to know that you’re not tanned and toned….
November 20, 2007 at 10:18 pm
listened to revolution today with those incendiary lyrics , “black men can’t get acquitted”. this gun control showdown in DC is shaping up to be quite the landmark battle , going to have some serious far-reaching implications …And how about that stem cell breakthrogh today—WOW !!!!!–that’s quite a remarkable development !
November 20, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Imagine, all those mini-biskys…
November 21, 2007 at 1:38 am
Shiny happy people gather, collide to carry each his burden, we are young and full of grace and spirites with something reptile…
You may not be able to see them Kirsten…but they’re there.
Abs that is. Beach nice, thanks for asking.
November 21, 2007 at 1:54 am
It’s pooring here. 12 deg…..
Glad it’s nice there, though. My sister’s in Perth for her honeymoon.
November 21, 2007 at 2:04 am
Did you tell her to go to the Cottesloe Civic Centre? Where rockstars wed.
November 21, 2007 at 5:52 am
Mr Cup, I like this idea of a song of ‘yeahs’ (but lack both the time and the editing skills). Could we also include ‘hey’ (Low Desert, Lotus), and ‘oh’ (We Walk)?
This thread is going to hit 100 posts soon. Whoever posts the 100th had better make it a good one.
No pressure, then…
November 21, 2007 at 6:41 am
There are a few ‘Heys’ in drive….maybe the ‘heys’ can be the infamous bridge?
The ‘oh’ bits…hmmm, maybe the b-side?
i just listened to THIS song again just now out in the warm evening air. Jeez it’s good. Hit the mood beautifully. Thank you REM. Thank you so much.
…no pressure…tee hee…
November 21, 2007 at 7:15 am
I just had a play in Garageband.
Now I’m no sound engineer…and it sounds bloody ‘orrible.
Probably need to be able to isolate the vox to have any joy here.
I’ll leave it out there for anyone that has killer techniques though.
…no pressure
November 21, 2007 at 7:29 am
November 21, 2007 at 8:19 am
congrats, mr. cup, for “these days intervention no. 100″! but this is “these days post 101″, and we all know the beginning is the end is the beginning
let’s begin the beguine! *shifts on chair*
November 21, 2007 at 8:38 am
I want to go back to the head-to-head matchups that people were discussing (Wendell vs. Kensey)…I tried posting this earlier but it wouldn’t go through…
The possibilities are limitless…
Swan Swan H vs. King of Birds
Flowers of Guatemala vs. Green Grow the Rushes
Harborcoat vs. Hairshirt
Drive vs. We Walk
(my picks: Birds, Flowers, Coat, Walk)
November 21, 2007 at 8:49 am
Also, never have sex, drink or do drugs. And never say “I’ll be right back!” Oh wait, those are different rules.
November 21, 2007 at 8:54 am
Jeez, I wish my new job didn’t block most every internet site. . .
Anywho, the rules for the first three song of an album come into play here. They are as follows:
the first song must set the tone of album. Swan Swan H or Superman would be horrible for LRP.
To excel, one of the first two songs must be a rocker, or something to get excited about. Preferable the first song, but if the first song is short, you can get way with it being slower. This is the reason why Fables and Automatic can’t compete. They may have the best three songs, taken individually, but they don’t meet this corralary, and thus, are disqualified.
All three songs cannot have the same style.
Bonus Points the first song is actually about starting something (See Begin the Begin) The same thing is true about last songs, by the by. Iteofwawki(aiff) would work, as does The End by the Doors or “Death is not the End.
November 21, 2007 at 9:47 am
the white night is talking backwards
trying to recall what the doorman said
November 21, 2007 at 10:01 am
Match-ups could happen in different Little America “Ignoreland” cities, or perhaps in the outback of a south central country (feedback).
All the way to Reno vs Texarkana.
How the West was won… vs West of the fields
Leaving New York vs I remember California (in the Low Desert)
Also, I’d like to see the Wichita Lineman take on Driver 8 in a bare-knuckle fist fight in Rockville.
The possiblities are endless. The possibilities, that is, for wasting time on the internet…
November 21, 2007 at 10:04 am
jimjos, those Langerado tix are now on sale, get two , plus my round trip plane tix.I’ll see you there
November 21, 2007 at 10:07 am
“the northeast corridor thinks the rest of the country is just a fly-over “_______Rush Limbaugh yesterday commenting on the “northest liberal media bias”
November 21, 2007 at 10:13 am
King of Comedy vs King of Birds
If someone already said that one…I’m so-oorry
November 21, 2007 at 10:20 am
There is the potential here for quite a fight card:
Stand vs Sitting Still
The Lifting vs Feeling Gravitys Pull
The Outsiders vs Let Me In
A tag team featuring Departure/ Leave vs Saturn Return/ Don’t Go Back to Rockville
And of course Bury Magnets vs Exhuming McCarthy… (what?)
More seriously, after LRP, I think New Adventures might just have the best 1-2-3. No, I’m not joking.
November 21, 2007 at 11:05 am
Milesy Standish, I thought somebody would eventually mentioned NAIHF’s first three. They are 3 strong songs fo sheez but for me they have no continuity or running themes. It’s like a mix-tape. I think the album begins to make sense as an entity a few tracks later – Undertow through Departure.
November 21, 2007 at 11:20 am
Radio Free Europe vs Radio Song
Harbourcoat vs Hairshirt
Flowers of Gautemala vs Lotus
You’re in the Air vs Don’t fall on Me
[Tech Fowel on the last one. Benched for the night.]
November 21, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Question — what makes one post get so many comments? This is now the 2nd most commented on song, in just 3 DAYS. The previous post had three days on its own and only got 15 comments. Is this song just that much more popular, or is something else going on?
My theory is that it’s the short work week (for those of us in the U.S. anyway) and people are procrastinating at work to get through to the holiday weekend. Put me in that category. 5 more hours… tick, tick, tick.
November 21, 2007 at 12:31 pm
the parakeet vs. the lizard king. I’ll take the Israelis vs. the Iranians minus the points
November 21, 2007 at 12:36 pm
I agree with your theory ,lenny ; folks are just in a relaxed, playful, and somewhat nonsensical frame of mind due to that short work week feeling.
November 21, 2007 at 12:48 pm
funny story about the Arizona Cardinals fooball team ; a couple of years ago the organization actually made a conscious effort to change the Cardinal logo on the helmet from it’s more docile original look to something more leaner and meaner , vwrey humorous to me, a cardinal is still a cardinal and not the most intimidating symbol for a footall team…although the team has gotten better, might be moving towards being a contender after years of haplessness (my second favorite team)
November 21, 2007 at 1:36 pm
I’ve lived in St. Louis most of my life — so we’ve just laughed at the Arizona Cardinals ever since they left town. But, not this year — the Rams are pitiful by comparison. Out of curiosity, what’s your 1st favorite team Malobisky?
The only real Cardinal is the original, St. Louis Baseball Cardinal. No need to tamper with that classic logo. And they’re a much better franchise in terms of history and success. Exactly how did this topic come up? Heron House – Swan Swan H – Parakeet – Cardinal?
November 21, 2007 at 1:58 pm
St. Louis Cardinals? Thems fightin’ words ’round these parts.
November 21, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Re Cardinals…gotta side w/Lenny on this one. The Cardinal is the King of Birds, baseball-wise. Trash talking will lead to a stampede at the (Musial) monument.
(Though, Lenny, I sometimes wonder if the uber-coolness of the Cardinal logo is partially offset by the uber-uncoolness of Fredbird…)
November 21, 2007 at 3:57 pm
OK gang it’s been fun, but if we’re going to reach 200 comments, and I’d like to, it can’t be because we are talking about video games and football/baseball teams.
Back to the subject — I liked everyone’s comments about the “hat” lyric in “These Days”. Now I have another one to ponder: “I will rearrange your scales.”
Any thoughts? I like Matthew’s take on the song as a stump speech, but “rearrange your scales” sounds a little threatening for a campaign promise. Am I wrong about that? Could there be a positive spin on scale rearrangement? What kind of scales are they? I guess I was always a little confused by that lyric.
November 21, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Or the the stench of a past-his-prime, overpaid Jim Edmonds patrolling center
November 21, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Rearrange your scales, I take (simply) as refering to justice. I will rearrange your sense of what is right and wrong… social justice, social action, we are concern, we are hope. I don’t see it as the rally cry of a political leader necessarily.
I’ve just watched These Days from the Dublin gigs and was amazed to see something I hadn’t noticed before. This may be very obvious… but the 3 things we have in common, THREE THREE THREE are – if Stipe’s hand signals are a clue – these three things: 1) we are young despite the years 2) we are concern 3) we are hope despite the times. Matthew talked about “inclusiveness” in his post and I think this is important. Inclusiveness between the band and the audience. No barriers, no stage, I wish to meet each one of you. We have these three things in common, we are on the same side, wanting the same things.
I see echoes of these lyrics in later songs, but to repeat what Matthew already said it’s hard to say what it’s actually really about… Popsong 89, Turn you inside out and Belong (those creatures from the sea).
November 21, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Firstly, I’d like to apologise for my poor spelling last night – it was at the end of a very long day!! Cottesloe Civic Centre – got it! Will put it on my list of places to visit….
These Days.
I thought the THREE things he was talking about was obvious: we are young, we are concern, we are hope.
I thought scales referred to balance. I’m not feeding off your negative energy, I will rearrange your thoughts/feelings so they are more balanced. If I can, and I can.
Then he walks into the ocean/sea (the big scary world)where he puts his hat down (an idea, thought, hopes/dreams?) and it sinks/fails. But he reaches down, yanks it up and slapps that soaking, slightly damaged hat straight back on his head. Now his hat is heavy on his head and is a burden. But with youth, concern and hope, he wears his hat with pride and joy.
How does that sound? Now I’d better do some work this morning….
November 21, 2007 at 7:37 pm
well , Michael may have wished to meet each one of us a while back but I doubt if he wants to now……. the wear and tear of that fame thing..
I’ve always thought of the scales as the scales of justice, sorta , gonna rearrange your paradigms of what constitutes fairness ,what is right and wrong .(especially I think in terms of American foreign policy here)
The Outsiders vs. Let Me In, that’s the best one yet
and lenny , I am reluctant to divulge my favorite team considering their most embarrassing succumbing to the mighty NYJets this past week-end .
Paul, you really crack me up sometimes.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all !!!!
November 21, 2007 at 7:46 pm
There’s no way he’d want to meet us – I think we lost him at Wendell Gee v Old Man Kensey. We are all officially freaks and possible stalkers. He’d be running scared by now!
November 21, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I’ve also construed “rearrange your scales” in a “rearrange your face” sorta way , one of Stipe’s most obviously agressive moments, like he’s really disgusted and pissed , wants to jack up some ignorant S.O.B.
November 21, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Electron Blue vs Orange Crush
Perfect Circle vs Witcheta Linesman
Airport Man vs The Sad Professor
Wake Up Bomb vs Daysleeper
I’ve been High vs Low
Hope vs Suspicion
November 21, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Wolves, Lower v I’ve Been High
November 21, 2007 at 8:03 pm
i’ve always liked to think of “rearrange your scales” in the funnier, quirkier sense of the serpents’ outer layer. very surreal image. like “i will shift every piece of you and change its place until i’ve transformed you into what i please. and i can.” works well with the rattlesnake sounds in the background too.
November 21, 2007 at 8:05 pm
2D, that sounds cool and more like Stipian language.
Around the Sun vs Man On The Moon
November 21, 2007 at 8:07 pm
I love the ‘if I can, AND I CAN’ line.
No second guessing this time.
November 21, 2007 at 8:15 pm
I love that line, too. So full of strength and determination.
There’s a battle going on right now between These Days and High Speed Train! Can’t remember what HST got to, but this is entry #132!
November 21, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Begin The Begin vs Endgame
The Boy in the Well vs The Wrong Child
Strange vs Crazy
Around the Sun vs Saturn Return
Beat a drum vs Mang and Blame
Sitting Still vs Stand
[working from hom vs productivity]
November 21, 2007 at 8:27 pm
sorry about the typos up there…
November 21, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Star 69 vs Star Me Kitten
I Don’t Sleep, I Dream vs Daysleeper
Falls To Climb vs Itself!
November 21, 2007 at 8:53 pm
LOL!
November 21, 2007 at 9:01 pm
find the river vs. cuyahoga
laughing vs. king of comedy
aaaaand stumble vs. trip through your wires
November 21, 2007 at 9:05 pm
suspicion vs. i believe
November 21, 2007 at 9:13 pm
Hey 2d, I wondered about that reptilian interpretation. Kind of creepy, but could work… You want cross your DNA with something reptile. Kirsten – sorry for being a bit dim and missing the obvious (ie. 3 things we have in common) but it was like a startling revelation to me today!
Er, getting tenuous but…
I’m not over You vs You vs You are the everything
Near Wild Heaven vs The Great Beyond
Superman vs Airportman (I know who the winner would be)
Strange Currencies vs Strange
So Fast So Numb vs So Central Rain (hmmmm…)
What’s the frequency… vs Radio Song (yes, well)
Begin the Begin vs Final Straw (oh dear!)
All the right friends vs I wanted to be wrong (come on!)
White Tornado vs Aftermath (now, that’s good!)
Must go to bed…
November 21, 2007 at 9:21 pm
i’d choose “airportman”, sorry (though they are both great) :p
wolves, lower vs. hyena
and if you don’t feel like going to bed, you can always go gardening at night (vs. nightswimming).
November 21, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I don’t sleep I dream/All i have to do is dream/Daysleeper
vs
Fretless
(basks in smugness)
November 21, 2007 at 10:00 pm
clever, Mr Cup, clever. I really am off to bed now. The sidewinder sleeps in a coil, whereas I sleep in a bed until the wake up bomb which is when I get up.
Wishing all you Stateside a very happy thanksgiving. We have a lot to be thankful for, do we not?
November 21, 2007 at 10:54 pm
When I was simple country folk, my friends and I would borrow a nice flat paddock from an unsuspecting farmer and tow an upturned car bonnet behind another car at speed. Around and around for hours.
I made a video of these times and used These Days and Begin the Begin as the soundtrack. The afternoon I captured was a clear end of winter days with golden light pouring across the lush grass. It takes me back there everytime I hear it.
Happy throngs take this joy, wherever you go.
November 22, 2007 at 1:28 am
We Are Concern.
Is that the EMO credo?
November 22, 2007 at 9:42 am
as ‘full-frontal’ big-sounding r.e.m. goes, this is right up there with the best of them.. i love the manic flurry of the track.. the vocals are thrilling and affecting, and the instrumentation is pounding and energetic.. i love the version on ‘tourfilm’..
November 22, 2007 at 11:40 am
9/9 vs. #9 dream .sic (basking in the peculiar smugness of his tumid self-delusion now)
yeah , gluefoot , “pounding” is exactly right, the drums especially are relentless, the physical exertion for Bill would’ve been quite the work-out , just beating one over the head with the message, LISTEN TO ME !!.indeed..PAY ATTENTION , DAMN IT , GET THIS RIGHT !! What other choice do I have?
November 22, 2007 at 5:05 pm
alright alright ,nuts, you made me do it……….. since no one else is saying it , I will; How many Americans will be rearranging there scales tomorrow , moving the one that gives the lower reading to the forefront ?
November 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Most peculiar. This beast of a thread has it’s own life! Last time I looked we were making sense (well we tried) of hats. Now what the hell has happened. You’re all like a wild bunch of animals let loose all over Matt’s blog and yup, that’s how it should be.
‘Rearrange your scales’ – to me just sounded like a great way of saying ‘I will f*** you up’ (turn you inside out?) but of course instead of Mr Stipester saying “I will f*** you up’ he found a much cooler, rattlesnake, serpent way to say it. what a great line no matter which way you see it.
And you’ve all stolen my wrestling teams. How about musical? Mike Mill’s baseline intro to ‘Laughing’ takes on Peter Buck’s guitar intro to ‘Pretty Persuasion’ for example.
Uh huh Oh yeah
November 22, 2007 at 5:13 pm
and remember those “results are not typical” and the actors are “remunerated”
November 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Just listened to the posted song(s) and I’m finding it very hard not to jump the gun and talk about just why (ahem jft) Fall on Me is so good.
Must…fight…the…urge.
November 22, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Excellent point on Rearrange Your Scales Bruno.
November 22, 2007 at 5:59 pm
OK I can’t help it.
LRP was when REM came of age. I think at this point they realised that they could go over the top. They could be a world killing band and do it on their own terms.
The folk albums beforehand were magical and set the stage for something new. Then came Reckoning and they started to stretch out – sonically – no longer chiming and murmuring. Dirtier guitars and a bit of noise and energy. Micheal finding confidence in his vocal ability. Then came the tough album, the turning point – ‘make or break’ – Fables. One that now stands as a singular achievement and for, or maybe because of all the trouble they had writing/recording it, sits on its own in the early catalogue – a slice out of time.
And then: LRP and it was the watershed. At least most of it was – the first half (and a few from the backside).
Document brought the same approach but the immediacy of LRP was the turning point. Afterward the high points were mostly folk based or similar. Automatic was one great song after another but it returned the band to the acoustics and the lighter approach.
LRP, especially, as has been mentioned, the first set of songs, was guns-a-blazing ‘Here we are, full of confidence and talent and we’re going to jump right into the center of the stage with what we know is great songs an great talent’. The coming of age.
A lot has been said about Peter Buck finding a new sound with each album and that may be a key with LRP. It’s the first time he found dirt and power – and so did the band. Often before this album his guitar sounded a bit thin. On LRP, it had an energy and this was at the center of their new confidence.
Absolutely a band that was now ready and poised to take on the (music) world.
Well um, so sorry – I was moved – You can now tell me I’m crazy.
November 22, 2007 at 6:51 pm
You’re not crazy, Bruno. That last post of yours makes a lot of sense. I’m curious to know if the band members’ views are similar to yours.
November 22, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Mr Richards vs Migraine Boy
November 22, 2007 at 7:37 pm
THe scales of justice argument is certainly plausible and makes the most sense. However I think you will find it refers to a time when James Michael presented a song to the band and they fell about laughing at how messy it was. The song, which shall remain nameless, was apparently rare in it’s lack of formal structure. Undettered, the young James Michael pulled out his notebook, scratched some lyrics which would eventually become ‘these days’.
It seems musical scales is what he wanted to re-arrange. If he can. And he can!
November 22, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Interesting stuff Mr Cup – how do you know this?
November 22, 2007 at 7:51 pm
He was that notebook.
November 22, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Umm ok cut it out!
He was that notebook?
Curious me
November 22, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Wouldn’t it be one of the greatest experiences, and I’m being serious now, if you could be a fly on the wall during some recording sessions and seeing exactly how some of these songs come together?
An example might be…a younger James Michael going in to do the vocal for Country Feedback with a scrap of paper with a sketch on it and doing what he did. Imagine listening to what came out for the first time.
[There are no long boring hours of things not happening in my fantasy OK]
November 22, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Yeah a fly on the wall
Somehow the very early stuff would be best. There just seems like a lot of tricky stuff going on in the studio on murmur. Vocals way back in the mix, weird sounds, lots of effects and deep stuff hiding in way back in the mix.
November 22, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Of course, the way the vocals/lyrics came together too, Mr Cup
November 22, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Yeah, everything. The creative process is infinitely fascinating to me in any field. There is online ‘tennis matches’ with designers these days, where you take somthing from someone else, rework it and send it back.
That may be a similar process with REM who all live in different cities and timezones.
But hearing a little riff or couple of note develop into a song, God I would love to witness that.
November 22, 2007 at 8:42 pm
It’s weird – I have such an old-school view on REM. Pre email/digital/chat/Youtube/social network/blah. I want them to be a dusty road in a deep south place somewhere where the fields are forgotten. In the digital world the possibilities are…well, endless, I do play about with layers and tracks, but to me (wistfully says I) the lack of that stuff is what makes their music truly magic.
November 22, 2007 at 8:50 pm
wow time for bed bye all
November 22, 2007 at 9:03 pm
(sigh) it’s just not their world anymore.
Neon lit airports and the buzz of airconditioned trains.
Driver 8 vs High Speed Train indeed
November 22, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Wow — most impressive everyone. Up to #166. The last time I said anything it was around 120. High Speed Train had 193, so we’re on our way to topping that. People took the fight card idea and ran with it (or should I say, beat it to death).
I only had a couple more…
So Central Rain vs. White Tornado
Catapult vs. The Wake Up Bomb
Man on the Moon vs. Kohoutek (cause it’s a comet)
Thanks for the notes on rearranging scales. The first explanation for that was probably the best. Kudos to maclure.
Let’s see — what else to say? Oh, I know. I think there’s one more challenger to the best 1-2 punch at the top of an REM album. Green. PS89 and Get Up really rock, so that almost rivals Begin the Begin and These Days. Not quite as good though, but close.
November 22, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Dang — that last message could have been about 4 different ones if I’d just split it up. Oh well.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone; I’m going to go rearrange my scale so it lies to me about my post-feast weight.
November 23, 2007 at 6:08 am
I am fascinated by this whole best 1-2-3, best 1-2 etc type of question, as I always think of REM in terms of albums rather than songs, with really strong associations of where a song is situated- for years, for example, I would mix up songs from side two (!) of Fables, because they all just blended together (in a good way).
There is no favourite album. But, under duress, I would probably pick Green. And yet, and yet… While I do like PS89 and Get Up, I think they are far from the best 1-2 (sorry lenny)- and I have even found myself starting the album at You are the Everything on occasion. Is this just me?
(Incidentally, I think You are the Everything is Fall On Me’s only serious challenger for the title of ‘best third track’.)
1000000 vs 9-9
I’ll take the So Central Rain
New Orleans Instrumental no. 151
November 23, 2007 at 10:50 am
Driver 8 is number 3.
I went through a patch of liking the 8th track of many albums (not just REM). 8 is lucky in chinese. And in esoteric mathematics, it’s a zero with a belt.
November 23, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Top five third tracks:
1. Fall on Me
2. You are the Everything
3. Exhuming McCarthy
4. So Central Rain
5. New Test Leper
And, yes, I am a fan of D8 too.
November 23, 2007 at 12:52 pm
….Didn’t Stipe record the vocal for Murmur , like , out of sight in the dark in a side stairwell or something like that ?
November 23, 2007 at 3:22 pm
never really cared for the title of LRP , certainly wouldn’t kick it out of bed for that though , I’ve always thought the titles of REM albums leave a bit to be desired . ..FOTR is cool though , as is Document……what will the next one be ?..
November 23, 2007 at 7:20 pm
I love the title as it’s from a Peter Sellers film (one of the Pink Panthers).
New Test Leper over Driver 8…I’ll have to put on some more lemonade I reckon.
November 23, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Hold the lemonade… Best third tracks:
1. Driver 8
2. Fall on Me
3. New Test Leper
4. King of Comedy
5. Low
The new REM album should be called “In the clear light of day”. Just came to me. If an REM member is reading this, please call the album this. I would be very grateful and very pleased.
Bisky – I think it was So Central Rain where he recorded it at the top of some stairs and fell down at the end which explains the slightly strained lyrics at the end of the track…
November 23, 2007 at 8:48 pm
er… strained VOCALS at the end of the track. typo.
November 23, 2007 at 11:34 pm
New Test Leper over So. Central Rain…I’ll have to put on some more lemonade I reckon.
November 23, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Didn’t he declare he sung it in the nude as well?
November 24, 2007 at 12:48 am
Fell down the stairs singing naked. That might hurt.
November 24, 2007 at 4:48 am
I’m looking for punch lines that were never there…
(mwaaa haaaa haaaa)
November 24, 2007 at 11:34 am
Forget New Test Leper.
What about King of Comedy over So Central Rain, You are the Everything, McCarthy, Laughing, Suspicion and Sidewinder..?
Leave your Lemonade at the bar, Maclure…
November 24, 2007 at 12:28 pm
make it a Lynchburg Lemonade
November 25, 2007 at 6:46 pm
New Test Leper??
Bring out the lemonade so I can throw it in your face sir.
November 25, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Kirsten, are you defending NTL or attacking? I suspect the latter, and can almost feel the first drops of lemonade…
November 25, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Attacking – crap compared to So Central Rain.
Just remember Lemonade in your eyes WILL sting like hell!
November 25, 2007 at 7:55 pm
New Test Lemonade!
Thanks Kirsten. Glad someone is being sensible around here.
November 25, 2007 at 11:01 pm
In honour of more recent postings:
It’s a free world baby vs It’s the end of the world as we know it
If I have to get to 200 by myself, I will people.
November 25, 2007 at 11:27 pm
LOL. Don’t worry Mr Cup, you are a part of the REM Community, so in that spirit I will help you reach the 200. This song probably deserves the trophy more than High Speed Train. At least we haven’t fallen back into the “Stipe the Alien” conversation again….
November 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm
We have many things in common, name three:
1. We love REM
2. We drink a hell of a lot of lemonade
3. And we have way too much time on our hands!
November 25, 2007 at 11:55 pm
It’s just so perilously close Kirsten.
So…very….close…
November 25, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Even closer now!!
Now I am feeding off you, we will re-arrange this blog. If we can, and we can.
November 26, 2007 at 12:19 am
I had a blog, and it sunk, reached, down yanked it up…
November 26, 2007 at 12:48 am
At least we now have more posts on These Days than there were on High Speed Train. It’s official NOW. I didn’t ever really care about 200, just 194.
May 1, 2009 at 11:13 pm
curious about something testing testing testing
November 26, 2007 at 1:06 am
I would agree lenny, if it weren’t for my respect for the traditions of cricket and its love of milestones. It’s almost a double ton. The crowd are calling for it. Just one big tonk and it’s in the bag…
Dig deep. Keep focus.
November 26, 2007 at 1:13 am
Mr Cup – the next Bradman.
November 26, 2007 at 1:33 am
It’s a team game Kirsten. Individual milestones are nothing if the team doesn’t perform well.
And…has Hannibal Lectre would say……’closer’….
November 26, 2007 at 1:36 am
We can reach our destination. (But we’re still aways away)
November 26, 2007 at 1:37 am
In the interest of “team spirit” please Mr Cup, have your moment of glory. Take us to 200…..
November 26, 2007 at 1:41 am
…raises bat to the crowd, meets team mate in the middle, they punch each other lightly on the glove…what an innings!
Think I have a little tear in my eye…
November 26, 2007 at 1:43 am
Take off your helmet, and wipe off the sweat. Your moment of glory has arrived!
Now what?
November 26, 2007 at 1:44 am
Speaking of milestones, traditions etc It just occurred to me that 151 should be a significant milestone on this blog.
Certainly easier than 1,000,000.
And with that the drinks cart is brought over from the swings for some well earned refreshments…
November 26, 2007 at 1:45 am
There is no emoticon for how I’m feeling right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 26, 2007 at 1:47 am
I know Mr Cup – Let’s drive this baby all the way to Reno! (Where undoubtably we will become stars)
November 26, 2007 at 2:18 am
We are
a star
tonight
November 26, 2007 at 5:27 am
Good work people- and all the while I was sleeping like Flintoff in the pavillion.
Meanwhile, because I am a pedant and cannot resist the urge to defend myself, I need to point out that I had So Central Rain higher on my list than Leper- it was maclure who didn’t include it! (but I love you maclure and will take a lemonade in the face for you anyday).
November 26, 2007 at 10:38 am
Milesy, I respect you because you would sacrifice your wicket for the team ( if only to get back into the dressing room a little sooner and get on the outside of an ale, like Freddy).
I also respect you as a pedant.
However, Driver 8 isn’t on yer list mate. It’s like picking a batting line up from the world XI and instead of choosing Steve Waugh, you pick your mate Dave. Steve, it seems gets to carry the drinks. From where I sit…it’s lemonade.
November 26, 2007 at 11:04 am
That’s a fair lemonade and I’ll take it in the face.
However, I do like balance in my lists of REM songs, so that they recognise the excellence throughout the band’s career. You wouldn’t want to pick 11 batsmen and end up with Steve W opening the bowling, would you? So, for me, unless So Central Rain, Fall on Me or McCarthy get injured or have to be suspended for pedalo-related activities, Driver 8 carries the drinks (which it is free to throw in my face).
November 26, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Hello folks, I know this thread is days old, I just never realised it was being taken over the 200 mark by some cricket lovers. Yes, I will take a lemonade in the face for not putting So.Central Rain on my list of track 3 REM songs. I dunno tho… it just never floated my boat that song. And Low and KoC and NTL are just really, really good in my opinion.
November 26, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Take away these scattered bones of my meal.
November 26, 2007 at 7:25 pm
For me, New Test Leper lacks any of the characteristics of a quality number three. There’s no dramatic build to a chorus, there’s no chorus, no mystery, no majesty, the vocals are flat and unspetacular.
It bogs down New Adventures just as it’s starting off. I would go so far as to say ANY other number 3 from any other album would be better.
If NTL was a batsman, he would take forever to get off the mark. Poke and prod outside off stump looking for away to get out and eventually put so much pressure on the rest of the team they’d have to hit out of there comfort zone to compensate (hello Undertow).
If I was team coach I’d say he needed more time in the nets or a bit more working out on the road before it was ready to make its debut.
I’m thirsty…
November 26, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Couldn’t agree more, Mr Cup. It is clearly the low-point of NAIHF and all other 3rd songs easily beat it. I’m even guilty of regularly skipping it.
November 26, 2007 at 8:16 pm
Guilt free skipping from me Kirsten. And don’t look for it an the iPod – it’s not there.
Speaking off:
There is a Podiatrist near my place and I’m really wanting to paint a liitle ‘i’ in front of the P.
hyuck.
November 26, 2007 at 8:38 pm
I am looking into joining the technology age and purchasing an ipod after Christmas. I don’t intend to put NTL on there. I suppose it will be a real test (leper) as to which songs I’m really not that fond of (I couldn’t bring myself to say “don’t like”). Me In Honey won’t be there either, but Kohotek and Hairshirt will be ’cause I see the potential of them both and do kinda sorta like them, just not that much. And this blog has made me appreciate them more.
November 26, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Yeah. Forcing oneself to listen to songs in isolation often reveals more of the song itself as opposed to the relationship it has to the others.
I have an iPod with video and there are some Tourfilm clips on YouTube I ‘collected’. As well as a really cool Document promo clip I’d never seen.
I take this joy wherever I go, in my happy thongs!
November 26, 2007 at 9:03 pm
A happy customer just brought in some Fruit Cake as a thank you to one of our sales guys. All I can think of is Bill Berry saying: “Wouldn’t you just love to throttle the person who invented Fruit Cake?” from Christmas Gripping. I hope Matthew covers that one.
A must!
November 26, 2007 at 9:14 pm
I haven’t heard it – is that a fan club thingy?
November 26, 2007 at 9:26 pm
New Test Leper is an awesome song! What’s going on – I won’t accept this panning of a classic tune.
November 26, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Yeah, it’s hilarious. I was watching a Christmas movie on TV last night and they were talking about Frosty the Snowman which they sing at the end of this song.
Some great lines:
Bill: I guess we’re going to have to go shopping now
Mike: and I’m gonna have to take my nefew to the mall to see Santa Claus
Peter: If I hear Rudolf the Red-Nose Raindeer one more time I’m gonna go up on a tower with a high-powered rifle
Michael: take a white marshmellow, put it on a coathanger, put it on the fire, get some
chocolate bars and some graham crackers and then you smush it and then you eat a hundred of ‘em and you vomit…
Mike: yeah, sometimes christmas really frosts ass…
November 26, 2007 at 9:29 pm
That should be “Frosts My Ass”
November 26, 2007 at 9:30 pm
maclure, I will no longer make you lemonade, but instead “put pepper in your coffee”
November 26, 2007 at 9:33 pm
This isn’t the REM I know…or thought I knew. They feel the same way I do about xmas then. Just get it over with!
Oh, a voice from the swings…
November 26, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I didn’t realise NTL had been done already. It seems to divide people between totally awesome and largely forgettable. That makes it interesting.
November 27, 2007 at 5:56 am
Good morning.
I feel I’m not going to win this argument… but…can’t …resist…one last…try..
Things to like about NTL:
It’s a great song in 6/8.
The way Michael’s voice holds on and wavers as he sings ‘Call me a leper…eyayyy’
The thematic link with undertow.
The way the clean accoustic strum contrasts with other songs around it.
The classicly stipean ambiguity of the lyrics that convey so much: is it someone being destroyed by the religious right for their sexuality; or actually someone religious being mocked for their faith… different meanings of ‘New Test’ (see NTL entries) etc.
The vulnerable hopeful, yet hopeless innocence of the protagonist.
The feedback at the beginning of the last verse (prefiguring the real feedback in the next song).
etc
Come on guys, give it another chance. I can handle it not being as highly thought of as Driver 8, but you’re overreacting.
And, Mr Cup, if only more English batsmen would bat a bit more like Geoff Boycott (not renowned for rushing into his innings), we might do a little better…
Ah well, I suppose I may as well get up and wash in lemonade tomorrow to save you guys the trouble of staying up down under to wait for me…
November 27, 2007 at 7:28 am
Ahh Boycott! I couldn’t think of his name.
Well milesy, I admire the aim of the song. I’ve seen this played out dozens of times on commercial television. Someone a little left of centre (and it usually is a very small way to the left) that the oh, so knowledgeable presenters don’t want to, or are unable to relate too else they be thought of as ‘different’ as well. It’s a way of reassuring the masses they are OK, unlike this ‘weirdo’ they see before them. They’ll tune in again tomorrow and have that reassured. Part of the media’s passion for keeping people uninformed.
However, as a song, a tune…it just doesn’t move me for all the reasons listed.
Can we still be friends? We could crack a two fiddy!
November 27, 2007 at 7:56 am
Why not?
After all, we have many things in common, name 3 (as long as it’s not the best track no.3…)
November 27, 2007 at 8:30 am
1) REM
2) Cricket
3) Nausea (at the mere mention of lemonade)
I’m listening to New Adventures…sort of guy I am
November 27, 2007 at 10:13 am
I pitty the fool who tries to get t’ two fidddy!
hnngrrr!
November 27, 2007 at 11:32 am
one transgression slithers
skewered round the clock
idle talk down to impact
November 27, 2007 at 12:18 pm
I’m trying to work out when you sleep, Mr Cup!
You could always sleep standing up I suppose (those darned track 3s).
I couldn’t find NA in HiFi in the car this afternoon when I need it; was happy to find Green, though…
November 27, 2007 at 12:18 pm
I mean ‘needed’
November 27, 2007 at 12:19 pm
the good thing about correcting typos is they keep the post-count ticking.
November 27, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Sorry everyone. Way off subject now.
I still think these days is a great song.
November 27, 2007 at 5:52 pm
Wow, where’s this going to end? 250? 300? More??
November 27, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Have we lost our minds?
Will this never end?
It could depend on your take.
November 27, 2007 at 7:51 pm
I think I’m 8 hrs+ GMT. Plus one daylight saving hour.
As far as sleeping, it doesn’t feel as if I do most times. I end up settling for a cup of coffee to differentaite am + pm.
I’m wondering now in the clear light of morning, why all the fuss on best third tracks when These Days is the second?
Ameliorate:
Pilgrimage
7 Chinese Brothers
Maps and Legends
These Days
Occupation
Pop Song 89
LMR
Crush with Eyeliner
hmmm, harder than I thought. I’m whittling it down and in typically old school manner heading straight for the back cat.
Will LMR make it????? stay tuned.
November 27, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Pilgrimage. Easily.
November 27, 2007 at 8:31 pm
It would be easy for me to pick the first five. But that could just be me being lazy.
Of course, the glaring omission from that list is Gardening at Night.
It just got harder.
Dang!
November 27, 2007 at 9:01 pm
best 2nd song?
1. Try Not To Breathe
2. Losing My Religion
3. These Days
4. I’ve Been High
5. Maps And Legends
November 27, 2007 at 9:08 pm
oh, and another try on the no.3 discussion (and to push the count a bit higher…)
New Test Leper (great, beautiful song!)
Driver 8
The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite
oh, and would Wolves, Lower count? on my edition it’s no.3 on CT. it would beat the mentioned ones by far.
November 27, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Top 3 2nds
1. Pilgrimage
2. Lotus
3. Crush With Eyeliner
Top 3 3rds
1. Low
2. The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite
3. Fall On Me
All subject to change with mood. 3rd songs were a lot harder to choose, so many great songs unmentioned.
November 27, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Welcome to the occupation
These Days
Pilgrimage
Gardening at Night (any version)
Maps and Legends
On the bench:
I’ve been high/Try not to breathe
In no particular order. Apologies to those who didn’t make it. I found it harder than #3’s which for me, picked themselves.
November 27, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Hmmm, honestly the only 2 I’d kick off your list are Occupation and TNTB.
It’s hard when they’re all so good.
So what now, on to the 4th??
(We’re nearly up to 250!)
November 27, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Occupation isn’t the greatest song but it contains one of my very favourite moments. Besides, he’s staring at me with big puppy eyes – how can I refuse?
TNTB, again the breathing thing is important thematically perhaps more than the song. Contradicting myself now aren’t I?
Scrap it then.
These Days
Pilgrimage
Maps and Legends
Gardening at night
Occupation (look at those big eyes!)
November 27, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Is it the “Listen to me” ending? I love that bit. Occupation used to be one of my absolute favourites, but unfortunately I think I overplayed it to death and it lost a little of it’s appeal. It’s my own fault. Now I’m going to go and hang my hairshirt on the lowest rung….
November 28, 2007 at 12:21 am
It’s the instrumental section, the raking strums at the end of that leading into ’sugar cane and coffee cup, copper, steel and cattle….a forest for the fire’
and the ‘listen to me’ with the dum, da-dum, d-dum guitar bit beneath.
ahhh
November 28, 2007 at 12:37 am
Yeah, I love the guitar under the ending too.
November 28, 2007 at 7:51 am
These Days was one of only 4 songs they went in to the studio with.
I know it to be true as I read it in a book.
November 28, 2007 at 9:30 am
I know why everyone started listing their favorite #3’s… They’re a lot better than the #2 tracks, on the average.
My top #3’s:
so. Central Rain
Exhuming McCarthy
Fall on Me
Driver 8
The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite
My top #2’s:
These Days
Try Not To Breathe
Get Up
Crush With Eyeliner
7 chineSe bros.
November 28, 2007 at 10:29 am
Kirsten, Good call on Lotus.
1. These Days
2. Occupation
3. Lotus
(honourable mentions to LMR, Pilgramage, Legends)
No 7 Chinese Bros coz whenever I hear it I think how much I prefer Voice of Harold.
Kirsten again- First I get in trouble for not putting D8 or So Central Rain high enough on my list- then you omit them both, while putting Sidewinder at no.2, ahead, I might add, of Fall on Me.
And I got lemonade in MY face…
November 28, 2007 at 10:31 am
Mr Cup. The ‘Raking strums’ are indeed an REM magic moment…
Why has nobody even mentioned Get Up, I wonder? (and how did PS89 make it onto your initial list of 2nd songs?)
November 28, 2007 at 11:13 am
Hi hi, hi hi, hi hi
Hi hi, hi hi, hi hi
November 28, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Milesy — I mentioned “Get Up” just 2 comments before yours. It’s #3 on my list of favorite #2 songs.
I was wondering about PS89 being on Mr Cup’s #2 list, too. Maybe his CD starts with track 11 (untitled) and starts over from the beginning, making PS 89 #2, and Get Up #3. That would be a big mistake, though, because the untitled track is perfect at #11. Maybe one of my favorite #11’s. No, wait — Wendell Gee takes that prize. (Then Circus Envy and We Walk)
OK, the ranking of songs with the same track number is getting out of control — sorry.
November 28, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Lenny- so you did. Apologies…
November 28, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Milesy, my apologies. Please accept this damp cloth to clean your face…
That was the first time I’d tried to compile a list and upon digging deeper I discovered that there were a great deal many fabulous #3’s. Didn’t realise how hard it was. But NTL over D8?? No way. Also, as stated earlier, ask me on a different day and you may get a different response. Maybe if we did the top 15 number 3’s I’d be able to fit more in.
November 28, 2007 at 7:39 pm
REMHQ NEWSFLASH!!!!
These Days reaches a staggering 255!!
November 28, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Go Team!
First some apologies:
Popsong 89???? Don’t quite know what I was thinking. Clearly I wasn’t. Or maybe pre-empting the next phase….
Not chastising Kirsten. I’ve said all I can say about the number 3’s. It’s a tough field of thoroughbreads. I was feeling like the school bully….and she’s a lady. What’s more she’s a lady who fully supported my cricketing segue back there.
I prefer the Voice of Harold anyday, however the riff remains the same and I loved that story as a kid. Well the idea of holding the ocean in your mouth…his mouth…you know what I mean.
Waiter, more coffee please…
November 28, 2007 at 8:57 pm
The whole world hinges on your swings Mr Cup.
I love it in 7 CBs when Michael clicks his tongue after saying “pull up a chair” in the last verse instead of seat, as though it was an accident.
November 28, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Hi hi , hi hi , hi hi
Hi hi , hi hi , hi hi
November 28, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Hello my friend, are you visible today?
November 28, 2007 at 9:33 pm
My God Kirsten, I wouldn’t have heard that if it wasn’t pointed out.
When you talk about my swings, do you mean mood, hips or the place where disputes are settled and lemonade dispensed with extreme prejudice?
I think Bisky is visible, but his nipples have been blocked out.
November 28, 2007 at 10:28 pm
LOL – No comment on that one!
I meant our REM court.
I also have a live recording of Low where after “All full of glory” he sort of says “huh” and double-clicks his tongue. I always do that when I hear the recorded version too. Maybe they should do a whole song just of Michael clicking his tongue?? I’ll obviously enjoy it!
November 28, 2007 at 11:21 pm
There is an African dialect which includes a lot of dextrous tongue clicking, maybe he’s practicing. Good luck with the’click track’.
If you need some ‘yeah, yeahs’ let me know.
It also just occured. We have had a change of government since this particular blog started. We seem to have begun a coy relationship (as a nation) with a left leaning political group again. The shackles of right wing conservatism broken for a spell. Sure, Mr Rudd is so down the middle he doesn’t appear left or right, but hey, a political party with an arts policy an this country? Yeah baby!
November 28, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Ha! I was listening to him on the radio this morning and he sounded like an excited little schoolboy! I’m gonna do this, I’m gonna do that. Hopefully he’ll do something before the enthusiasm wears off! Still no gay marriages, though. Although he did say he would relax some of the laws, so we’re getting there. I live in one of the few areas that remained Liberal. Still, our guy does give us a free calendar every year….
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 am
The Labour government here is very keen to treat gays as real people (how radical!) so it should be a nationwide thing with a clean sweep of the country.
Apologising to Aborigines. Sheesh!
Notice how Turnbull has gone all ‘Yes, we should have apologised”
12 years not fricking long enough to come up with a few reconciliatory words you miserable little private school tits!
Should we talk about the weather?
November 29, 2007 at 1:11 am
Yeah, you wouldn’t want to be a female homosexual Aborigine under a Liberal government!
It’s really muggy here today. Hi Hi.
November 29, 2007 at 1:47 am
There’s an opera singer who is just that. Can’t remember her name.
Speaking of weather:
Kyoto Agreement…oh look, the people care. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Like take Li’l John to the swings.
Like how we replaced Mr Sheen with Mr Sheenier?
November 29, 2007 at 9:31 am
Mr.Cup, aren’t you in Washington State ? ………thought you stated a while back, and Figgy is in New Zealand , Kirsten in Australia, maclure is somewhere between Brazil and England , BWD in Utah, 2d in Rumania, xman in Massachusetts, jimjos in Florida….
November 29, 2007 at 9:33 am
lenny and milesy, where are you guys at ? Bruno ?
November 29, 2007 at 10:21 am
we went to the store and bought something great
which samples this song from washington state
go
go little record go
it is named by
some guy named joe
and the words
are the letters of the word
that rhyme with a ladies money carrying device
November 29, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Bisky — the answer to your question was covered in comment #117. Feel free to count it out and find the answer. (ha!)
Hard to believe that it was so long ago that we were only at 117. (It was 8 days ago — that’s a hint to help you find it. For another hint, think baseball.)
November 29, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Bisky – you didn’t mention if you knew where Paul Alferink was from — and I’m curious, because he said that just uttering my baseball team’s name constituted “fighting words” where he comes from. How about it, Paul? Chicagoland, possibly?
November 29, 2007 at 3:59 pm
Ah, the These Days thread is clearly where its at still. Maybe we’ll stay here chatting away until eternity. Comment #1290.
Yes, I live in Brazil. Milesy, I know. He’s a Brit, formerly housed in South Africa, but now back in Ol Blightey.
November 29, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Don’t even mention eternity…you know that Matthew could cut us off with the click of a mouse, don’t you? I also have a wordpress blog, and it’s just as simple as closing the post, to not allow new comments.
But he’s probably not reading “these days” anymore, so he won’t pick up on that hint. If I were Matthew, I know I wouldn’t have read past #97 (no offense, milesy — or would that be offence?) And I would have closed it off at 151.
November 29, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Nah – Matthew wouldn’t do that, he knows it’s like a creche for us here. Right?
November 29, 2007 at 6:11 pm
He couldn’t! He wouldn’t!! Would he???
(Starts breathing into paper bag…)
November 29, 2007 at 6:17 pm
You up already Mr Cup? To repeat Milesy’s question earlier: When the hell DO you sleep??
November 29, 2007 at 7:26 pm
Sleep is for the weak!
November 29, 2007 at 7:34 pm
I don’t sleep – I dream.
November 29, 2007 at 7:49 pm
There is nothing so painful as craving sleep
November 29, 2007 at 7:53 pm
What about craving doughnuts?
God I’m hungry.
November 29, 2007 at 7:56 pm
right , lenny , I remember now ; Alferink is in Illinois…….huub is in Holland (I think), Ignis –of course –is in Seattle , the other Scott is in ,well , he hasn’t posted it here so I won’t violate his privacy , although I know…..let’s see , who else ?….DaveGreenlizard , South Africa ?
November 29, 2007 at 8:07 pm
What on earth made you think I was in Washington State Bisky?
November 29, 2007 at 8:21 pm
You said you were in WA, That’s probably Washington in the US.
November 29, 2007 at 11:23 pm
you’re not in Washington ?
where the hell are ya then ?
what planet?
November 29, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Oh, I forgot to ask, too — bisky, where are you from?
About MrCup; Maybe WA means Wales. Just a guess on my part.
November 29, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Kirsten — ‘Try not to breathe’ into that paper bag — I just meant Matthew could cut off comments to THIS post, not all of them in general.
Of course, the party will eventually just move on to the next better song that gets posted. But I gotta admit — there aren’t a whole lot better songs than These Days (REM songs, anyway). Believe it or not, I listen to the song almost every time I check the post for it.
November 30, 2007 at 12:17 am
Well I hope Matthew doesn’t post a new song too soon or everyone will lose interest in These Days and we are so VERY VERY close to 300…..
November 30, 2007 at 3:21 am
I’m not leaving my crease for a bunch of b-sides with a triple ton approaching – no siree Bob!
WA = Western Awe-stray-leah
Our state emblem is the Sandgroper (what indeed you may well ask).
When REM played in ‘89, Stipe into’d with ‘Groovers of the sand – into it”.
November 30, 2007 at 4:52 am
losing interest in these days? never…!
another one in the row of senseless postings
and a step closer to 300…
November 30, 2007 at 9:13 am
Sorry, gang — I just don’t get too excited about these big milestones. 200, 300, whatever. I was just glad that I could claim the 286′th message for my very own. Can anyone guess why? Consider this your number riddle for the day.
November 30, 2007 at 10:42 am
no idea lenny….from Pittsburgh, PA originally , currently living in the San Diego area…constant craving has always been……….
November 30, 2007 at 10:44 am
where you at jft ? bandwagon ? jared ? the mysterious and elusive Michael Black Ph.D ?
November 30, 2007 at 10:46 am
pouring down rain this early morning –LUV IT LUV IT LUV IT, we need rain so badly…..–nothing like rain in the early morning, listening to Saturn Return …..
November 30, 2007 at 10:50 am
Mr. Cup , I COULDA SWORN you said you lived in Washington State United States of America somewhere along the line ………
November 30, 2007 at 10:54 am
the weird thing is , lenny, that #286 means something to me but I can’t figure what , resonated somewhere within me ……hmmn…
November 30, 2007 at 11:38 am
scott, hmm? i didn’t exactly understand what you wanted to ask me. well, whether it was anything senseful…
November 30, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Keep thinking, scott — 286 specifically applies to this post, and no others. It’s the same way I’d take notice of message #387 on “exhuming mccarthy” (if it ever came to that).
November 30, 2007 at 3:03 pm
One…
November 30, 2007 at 3:03 pm
…step…
November 30, 2007 at 3:06 pm
…beyond! Yah! 300! **uncorks bottle of champers**
I’m sorry if I broke some unwritten rule of commenting that says you shouldn’t post in sequence just to get to a new number. Oh well, here we are.
#286. The second song from an album made in ‘86.
#387. The third song from an album made in ‘87.
I’m holding out for a Monster track any day now from Matt. If so, perhaps I’ll be posting on #194, although it may take us a while to get there.
November 30, 2007 at 4:39 pm
these days are angry like a black crow on the moon clawing and scratching across the expansive darkness behind our eyes.
November 30, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Nice job, maclure. I knew that my 2nd clue would give it a way. Good luck on 194. I’m waiting for 886, my all time favorite song, but I’m not holding my breath on getting that many comments.
November 30, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I was just asking jft, where you are at (geographically speaking) ?
that’s a good one , lenny , and I think that one will get a lot of comments
November 30, 2007 at 9:43 pm
I’ll be up for the journey on 886 Lenny.
Bisky, maybe I mentioned WA but certainly never implied Washington State. I dabbled my toes there one weekend, but that was so long ago. A month before Mr Cobain departed the be precise.
Now, where are those Persians?
(and my fantasy tan).
December 1, 2007 at 1:13 am
..or the expansive darkness in front of our eyes….
December 1, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Man, I have a couple of days too busy to get online and come back thinking they’ll be something new- and These Days is still going strong!
Thanks for the answer on my behalf maclure- I confess to being in Oxford, England.
Nice work on the Pixies lyrics Mr Cup- I’m surprised no one else picked that one up. Go little record go indeed!
December 1, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Thanks for noticing milesy.
The Pixies would be my second faveourite band. They finally toured here this year. It was a beautiful thing.
December 2, 2007 at 1:29 am
What? Only 2 messages on December 1st — this thing might actually be slowing down now.
I was wondering about the Mr Cup post a while back — so it was the Pixies — interesting. Wow, this post has covered a lot of ground, hasn’t it.
Imagine what kind of journey it would have to be to reach 886… It probably won’t make it that far. I could talk about how I put I Believe on just about every CD mix I make, how I made it into a ring tone for my phone…the lyrics starting with “trust in your calling…” How it’s the best #8 song by far. How LRP has the best 8-9-10 of any album. How I even love the banjo intro on it. We could list other great songs featuring the banjo (starting with Wendell Gee). It will be a great month and a half — that post. But it still won’t reach 886.
December 2, 2007 at 1:30 am
…make that 3 messages on December 1.
December 2, 2007 at 4:00 am
Oh how I love a good banjo. One song I love at the moment is “your rocky spine” by the Great Lake Swimmers. Nice banjo.
4
December 2, 2007 at 7:21 am
Here we go again. Now it’s a best 8-9-10. Lenny kickstarts the thread…
Totally agree with I believe as a top song, another example of JMS making something remarkable out of an apparently very simple, repeating loop (see Me in Honey comments).
But, if LRP has a weak moment (which it doesn’t really) then it would be What if we give it away. For me, at least. Don’t have time to think of a better 8-9-10 now, but I’m working on it…
December 2, 2007 at 7:40 am
i agree with you, milesy. that song is the weakest moment on LRP, and what annoys me most is that it comes right after the best in the bunch!!! (yes, “i believe” is my favourite r.e.m. song as well)
December 2, 2007 at 7:46 am
+ i have always felt that the second half (or, to narrow it down, 3rd quarter) of most r.e.m. albums is slightly weaker/losing momentum than the rest.
as for 8-9-10, i think i’d pick “you’re in the air”/”walk unafraid”/”why not smile” … fragile, crystalline, pure lovesong / empowering, dark, personal anthem / beautiful, intimate, heartfelt hug (matthew gets copyright for this one).
December 2, 2007 at 9:23 am
to add sth to the 8-9-10-talk:
my choice would be Out Of Time. even if I’m not that much into that album, those 3 tracks in a row “half a world away”/”texarkana”/”country feedback” are close to perfect.
December 2, 2007 at 9:32 am
OK, for me there’s two options for the best 8-9-10:
Either Murmur: The plaintive cry of ‘conversation fear’ bookended by two complete classics of the early period, Sitting Still and Shaking Through, all melodic, harmonic and jangly… just perfect.
Or Automatic: Ignoreland, Kitten, Man on the Moon- beat that for variety, and capturing the wide range of talents that was REM at the peak of their success…
December 2, 2007 at 10:12 am
Oh Jeez…
2d and jft present nice options, Green presents some tantalizing morsels with Orange Crush, Inside Out and Hairshirt (the latter not usually a crowd pleaser). Monster has a nice run also. But I will have to agree with milesy. After listening to Shaking Through I think one should observe silence for a while.
A tougher, perhaps better challenge might be best three in a row…
December 2, 2007 at 10:15 am
…and without actually checking, I’m thinking off the top of my head,
Man on the Moon, Nightswimming and Find the River could be a little hard to conquer.
December 2, 2007 at 12:48 pm
oh… to pick the best 3 in a row is quite hard. there are several options, but at the moment I think I’d go for “Diminished”/”Parakeet”/”Falls To Climb”.
December 2, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Contratulations everyone!! 300 is a great achievement.
8-9-10: that was hard, but I choose Document: Fireplace, Lighnin’ Hopkins, King of Birds.
Document also has one of the best 3-in-a-row: Lighnin’ Hopkins, King of Birds, Oddfellows Local 151.
But the best 3-in-a-row must go to NAIHF as it has 2!
Binky The Doormat, So Fast So Numb, Low Desert
and
Undertow, E-Bow The Letter, Leave
December 2, 2007 at 7:38 pm
YEAH , Kirsten , your in my corner on Oddfellows !!!
there may be a serious showdown brewing , great to have you on board……
December 2, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I like Oddfellows a lot and can’t have a bad word said about Document in casual conversation, but it doesn’y quite reach the heights.
I’ve always loved the run of Occupation, Mcarthy, Heron House. With Worksong in front it is my Mt Rushmore.
December 2, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Oddfellows is easily the best song on Document. And it has a really cool title.
December 2, 2007 at 9:21 pm
WOW KIRSTEN !!! “easily the best song on Document.”!!! WOW….Those are some strong words there, I didn’t think you liked it that much !
December 2, 2007 at 9:31 pm
It’s more about the music than anything else.
ITEOTWAWKI is better live though.
December 2, 2007 at 11:08 pm
And those grunts at the end!
Big call. Very surprised to hear it would be anyones favourite song.
As they say – “You go girlfriend!”
December 3, 2007 at 1:28 am
Hey, we’ve had no electricity for a couple of hours – severe storms here today. Now, what did I miss?? Oh, not much!! Just to clarify, I said it was my favourite song from Document, not out of all the songs. But I still stand by my claim.
December 3, 2007 at 1:47 am
Sorry – from Document. It’s still surprising.
Picking one song is too hard. I tried. I failed.
December 3, 2007 at 1:50 am
I must add that on a different day I may change my mind, but more often than not, Oddfellows is the one I skip to first before listening to the rest of the CD.
December 3, 2007 at 9:35 am
My my my — when an idea comes up, people just run with it. I was only half joking about the 8-9-10 songs, but i thought that discussion would be held on the I Believe page, whenever its turn comes around! Oh well — I guess people are determined to keep this post going strong, whatever it takes.
December 3, 2007 at 9:43 am
Mr Cup, what can I say? Occupation, McCarthy, Heron House would certainly be really hard to beat as a best ever 3 in a row.
I’m firmly in the defending 151 camp, as I may have said before… But I’ve forgotten who we’re supposed to be fighting! Have to wait and see, I suppose…
December 3, 2007 at 9:44 am
But about my 8-9-10 — after further review — I’m tempted to change my answer to Out of Time. I had overlooked that album’s 8-9-10, because it’s not on my iTunes list — I still only have it on a cassette. Bad lenny, bad REM fan!
Although — I’m not really overly disappointed with the #9 track on LRP. Yeah, it’s kind of a drop off from #8 on the CD, but what song wouldn’t pale in comparison? If I chose WIWGIA as my least favorite on LRP, it would only be because I like every song on the CD a lot, and one had to finish in last place (it’s like Steven Malkmus’ choice from the Time after Time discussion).
December 3, 2007 at 10:00 am
I’ve got a theory — if ‘I Believe’ was anywhere near the early part of this album, it would win every discussion of 1-2-3, 2-3-4, top 3 in a row anywhere, hands down. I guess it suffers from its placement on the album — but that could be the very thing that makes it stand out even further as such an incredible song.
December 3, 2007 at 11:35 am
have way to 666 , push it Baby …….ooooooooh yeah
ooh yeah ooh yeah come on come come on come on come on do it do it do it do it do it push push push push …..
whomever posts 666 is the Anti-Christ
December 3, 2007 at 11:38 am
milesy, the Oddfellows thing sorta started with the Strange posting if I recall correctly, the lines were being drawn, the lemonade was being brewed , the swings were being polished, the first-aid kits prepared
December 3, 2007 at 11:44 am
uh, that’s half-way to 666, not have way , somewhere between my brain and my fingertips the thought began , the thought began and I missed it…and now we are more than half-way .if I can keep up this flow of inanities a while longer we’ll make significant progress…….
December 4, 2007 at 1:10 am
I think with a little hard work we can make it to 666. But which one of us will be the Anti-Christ??? Only time will tell…..
December 4, 2007 at 1:12 am
Hey, maybe REM could take little snippets of things we’ve said and turn it into a song – a mini tribute to us! They could call it “These High Speed Days”…
December 4, 2007 at 2:45 am
I had an antelope, and it sunk, reached down, yanked it up, I’ll never look back again…..
December 4, 2007 at 9:35 am
Good idea, Kirsten — But I have a better name for the next great REM single: “All the way to 666 (you’re gonna be an anti-christ)”
December 4, 2007 at 11:47 am
Vladimir Putin
December 4, 2007 at 7:56 pm
LOL! I like the way you think Lenny!!
December 5, 2007 at 8:20 am
Question… why does Scott always drop in with random messages like “Vladimir Putin” or “hi hi hi hi hi…”?
Just wondering. I had to come up with something to keep this post going. It seems to be losing some steam.
December 5, 2007 at 8:22 am
And I’m glad you liked that one, Kirsten. But I don’t think that 666 is going to happen. At this rate, 400 doesn’t look good. I hate to admit it, but I’m ready to move on. I just need the right song to be posted by Matthew, and I’ll start another furious deluge of comments.
December 5, 2007 at 10:20 am
Soft.
We lookin’ at three fiddy.
Three Fiddy and you wanna move on!
December 5, 2007 at 11:44 am
The Soft Parade
Furious at freedom
So utterly unattained
December 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm
…see, that’s what I’m talking about, right there… stuff like that, Bisky. You just wrote that because Mr. Cup wrote “Soft.”?? I guess I’m out of the loop, because I just don’t know where you come up with stuff like that (and Vladimir Putin).
December 5, 2007 at 3:01 pm
And Cup: I’ll only move on if a better song comes along… or, if a day goes by with less than 5 comments, or if a day passes without a comment from each of you. I see that it’s down to about 4 or 5 of us. (Kirsten, Scott, Cup, myself, and maybe milesy.)
December 5, 2007 at 3:02 pm
I got your three fiddy…
December 5, 2007 at 3:02 pm
RIGHT HERE!
December 5, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Whooo-hooo! Well done Lenny!
Now, only 316 to go…..
(make that 315 now)
December 5, 2007 at 8:19 pm
I’m here for you lenny. Somtimes I may need to be a little antagonistic in the hope that that friction will provide a spark. Bisky seems to run with it.
Next milestone, I reckon, would be 365 as it’s the amount of time (in days…in an average year) it takes the Earth to revolve ATS.
December 5, 2007 at 8:26 pm
I’d also like to keep this post going by saying something that would usually be kept to the current post.
On behalf of those of us who are already into Thursday 6th December, I’d like to extend an increadably huge Happy Birthday to a very talented man known as Peter Lawrence Buck. 51 today. Have a great day, Pete!
WE LOVE YOU!!!
December 5, 2007 at 8:54 pm
HBTY
HBTY
HBDP
HBTY
HIP
HIP
HOO
RAY
December 5, 2007 at 9:09 pm
What should we get him??
December 5, 2007 at 9:13 pm
Oh, I know.
I’ll get him a big bouquet
I’ll pick it myself today
It’ll compliment his eyes
There’ll (hopefully) be love at the end of the line
Ahh, High Speed Train and These Days finally become one…
December 5, 2007 at 9:17 pm
All of a sudden, these high speed trains, happy thongs, take this joy, wherever you goo-oooo-oooo-oooo-oooo-oo
December 5, 2007 at 9:26 pm
He’s on the market you know.
December 5, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Well if he’s read even half of what I’ve written he’ll know to keep well away from me!!
However, he should admire our commitment to These Days.
December 5, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Maybe if I try to lure him up to that watertower…..
December 5, 2007 at 11:06 pm
You just don’t know who you’ll find up there Kirsten!
December 5, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Wow, we’re up to 360 – a Perfect Circle.
December 5, 2007 at 11:13 pm
How did I miss that one?
December 5, 2007 at 11:22 pm
I’ll let you take 720 – 2 perfect circles!!
December 6, 2007 at 12:02 am
These Days.
These 365 Days.
These 365 Days of the year.
These 365 Days of every year.
If you read 1 entry per day for an entire year, this is where you’d end up.
These Days take away these scattered bones of my meal.
December 6, 2007 at 9:44 am
Happy Birthday PB,
What should we get him? Well, you can never have too many records in your collection. I suggest a single that was released in the UK but not the States, so he probably doesn’t have it in that format…. Wendell Gee!
December 6, 2007 at 11:45 am
and Stipe will be 48 in less than a month…….
December 6, 2007 at 11:52 am
The Soft Parade is one of my favorite album titles ever, or Caress Of Steel , or Tiny Music (Songs From The Vatican Gift Shop)………..Physical Graffiti, Knocked Out Loaded, Fables Of The Reconstruction…..
Anybody got any favorite album titles ?
December 6, 2007 at 11:55 am
Done With Mirrors
December 6, 2007 at 12:09 pm
How’s this for a lyric ? RHCP, “Double chins and bowling pins and phony Presbyterians..”, from Especially In Michigan……
December 6, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Kirsten, don’t forget about the 366 days of Leap Year , The Color Of The Brisk And Leaping These Days.
December 6, 2007 at 12:22 pm
“a disenchanted diplomat asleep inside the laundromat”
December 6, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Peter’s got twins , eh ?
I’m a twin , scary ,huh?
December 6, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Two ScottM’s? Which one are you? And, btw, I am originally from Michigan – not Presbyterian, though. No double chin, yet. And, my hometown DID make bowling pins at one point (Brunswick). Now, that’s scary, HUH? HUH!
A fav album title: “Pill ‘n’ Thrills and Bellyaches” Happy Mondays
December 6, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Talking Heads – Fear Of Music
And NAIHF is also really cool.
Sorry Michael, not that keen on “Cat Butt”
December 6, 2007 at 6:07 pm
How about “janet” by Janet Jackson
Better yet, the first two Weezer albums.
December 6, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Two Biskys?? And all this time I’ve been thinking Scotty’s been having conversations with himself……
December 6, 2007 at 6:12 pm
make that the first and third Weezer albums…. i promise I’m not stoned.
December 6, 2007 at 6:44 pm
yeah , we’re identical twins in the medical sense of the word (with the exact genetic make-up , originally from the one fertilized egg that then split) although we are quite different THESE DAYS philosophically and politically , he’s back in Pittsburgh…….We look more like brothers THESE DAYS than twins–I’m three minutes older–my family has always said that I look more like my older brother that died of AIDS than I do my twin , and I tend to agree
cool album title : Silk Degrees
December 6, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Isn’t that funny that you look more like your older brother than your ‘identical’ twin? Probably nice for your parents to see a bit of him in you.
Excellent use of the term THESE DAYS too Bisky!
December 6, 2007 at 7:18 pm
THESE DAYS is another great name for a day-to-day R.E.M. blog.
December 6, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Trompe Le Monde
More Songs About Buildings and Food
Janet
in that order!
December 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm
wow, still sth going on here during these days …
December 6, 2007 at 10:03 pm
There’s something strange going on tonight, there’s something going on that’s not quite right…
Sorry, couldn’t resist!
December 6, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Empire Burlesque
Weasels Rip My Flesh
December 6, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Weasels or Hyenas??
December 7, 2007 at 1:22 am
Sorry Bisky — I’m just not as quick with the stream of consciousness messages. (Empires, weasels, or Doors albums) It’s kind of hard to keep up when I haven’t posted a message for a day and a half… BTW, I don’t have Soft Parade, either — just the self-titled and best of door albums. Darn.
December 7, 2007 at 1:37 am
Oh, favorite album titles… do they have to be albums we like a lot, too? Or just titles we like? (2 lists)
Favorite albums with great titles:
Wish You Were Here (just rolls off the tongue)
Happiness is not a Fish that You Can Catch
Under the Table and Dreaming
Modern Life Is Rubbish
Comfort Eagle
Just bizarre/funny/clever titles:
Did I Shave My Legs for This?
Enema of the State
The Burdens of Being Upright
(does anyone even know all of these?)
December 7, 2007 at 1:59 am
Aww, sweeeeet!! I just posted message # ‘exhuming mccarthy’! Little did I know way back at 286 (these days), that we would actually get to 387, and I got it! Also got You are the Everything.
If you don’t understand this message, you weren’t paying attention on November 30th. (Just search this page for “number riddle”)
December 7, 2007 at 3:17 am
This is the the set up for:
December 7, 2007 at 3:17 am
LOW
December 7, 2007 at 11:48 am
Cracker LOW :
“sometimes when I walk these streets behind a green sheet of glass”
December 7, 2007 at 2:17 pm
It’s a good day when you wake up to the radio playin’ “Pop Song 89″
“hello, I know you, I knew you….”
When you awake from R.E.M. by R.E.M., you know you are in for a strange and beautiful day!
Bless KEXP and their love for R.E.M. (kexp.org – check it out, friends!)
(i once woke up to a cover version of “Orange Crush” followed by “Turn You Inside-Out”)
December 7, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Someone is definately in love!
December 7, 2007 at 9:25 pm
I skipped the part about LOVE……
December 7, 2007 at 10:43 pm
night suits me fine , morning suits me fine
no that’s a lie
THESE DAYS I much prefer the morning than the night didn’t used to be that way …….but now
“It’s awfully easy to be hard-boiled about things in the daytime but at night it’s quite another story.”———Ernest Hemingway
December 7, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Enema Of The State. Beastie Boys ?
December 7, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Wish You Were Here and Under The Table and Dreaming , I do know ……….How about favorite lyrics ?
December 7, 2007 at 10:57 pm
anybody got the new REM LIVE ? what do you think of it?
cool album title : Live Evil or ,maybe my all time favorite album title : Intensities In Ten Cities
December 8, 2007 at 6:55 am
f o u r h u n d r e d
thangyewverymuch!
December 9, 2007 at 7:26 pm
401 – on the way to 500!
December 9, 2007 at 11:26 pm
The closer I get, the further I feel.
I’m certain I’ve said that before.
December 9, 2007 at 11:28 pm
The closer I get, the further I feel.
I’m certain
I’ve said that
Before.
December 10, 2007 at 1:42 am
I have a quote that kills two birds with one stone:
1. Response to Kirsten’s statement.
2. Response to Scott’s favorite lyric question.
“The more you ignore me, the closer I get.”
– a great song and lyric by Morrissey (though the song is chock full of great lyrics, besides the title)
December 10, 2007 at 1:46 am
Artists from my other favorite album titles, in case anyone was still wondering (Scott asked about them)
Enema of the State — Blink 182
The Burdens of Being Upright — Tracy Bonham
Happiness is not a Fish that You can Catch — a lesser known album by my favorite Canadian band, Our Lady Peace
Modern Life is Rubbish — Blur
Comfort Eagle — Cake
December 10, 2007 at 10:50 pm
No Comments Today?!
Well I’ll drag this baby to 666 even if I have to do it myself!
December 10, 2007 at 11:13 pm
I figured I’d find you here
one more.
December 10, 2007 at 11:25 pm
We should’ve saved the Magician conversation for here.
One more.
December 10, 2007 at 11:27 pm
And thanks Scotty. I appreciate your help!
December 11, 2007 at 12:59 am
I was drawn from my crease…
December 11, 2007 at 2:10 am
I put the name Michael Stipe into an anagram generator. The best one:
Emphatic Lies
December 11, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Emphatic Lies?? Ha! That explanes soooo many lyrics!
December 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm
It also sounds really cool.
We might find the term “emphatic lies” in the lyrics of their next single….
December 11, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Alchemist Pie
Cheap Elitism
Shipmate Lice
Email Pitches
Impale Ethics
A Speech Limit
A Chemist Pile
I Machete Lips
Camels Tie Hip
Shit Lime Pace
December 11, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Ha, good one Mr Cup. I wonder what Ignis Sol would generate….
btw happy Chanukah! My special guy celebrates this and I had latkes. Shalom to all you happy throngs!
December 11, 2007 at 8:30 pm
A Speech Limit is another brilliant one!
You’re gonna have to hit REM for some royalties!
December 11, 2007 at 8:37 pm
I just checked out an anagram site (while still working, of course).
I like – Michael Stipe: Male Epic Shit
December 11, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Shalom Ignis and ’special friend’.
December 11, 2007 at 8:55 pm
‘ ‘ sums up my life!
December 11, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Be greatful – the best I could come up with for me was “Stinker”

Sums up my life?
December 11, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Jim Morrison –Mr. Mojo Risin (?)
December 11, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Hey, that’s creepy! I wonder if he knew that when he wrote it?
December 11, 2007 at 9:21 pm
A Speech Limit means no filibustering….
December 11, 2007 at 9:27 pm
is it true that Cobain , Hendrix, Morrison ,Joplin , Brian Jones, and Curtis Mayfield were all 27 when they died ? so , maybe that’s why Cobain chose that age to commit suicide ??????? or just coincidence I wonder ….I’d have to check those ages though I don’t have time right now.
December 11, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Coincidence.
Cobain was murdered.
December 11, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I think Mr Morrison was aware of it.
So ah…Sesame Street now comes with an R rating. Is political correctness going a wee bit too far?
December 11, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Peter Buck = Beep Truck
December 11, 2007 at 9:33 pm
It’s Elmo’s potty mouth.
December 11, 2007 at 9:34 pm
It’s Elmo’s potty mouth.
December 11, 2007 at 10:01 pm
I’m certain you’ve said that before…
(did you just get a ‘hang’ in yer post?)
December 11, 2007 at 10:03 pm
jim jos posted this in MOTM, but I’ll carry it on here.
New REM album (title):
Brawl, Emu Men
December 11, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Yeah, sorry my computer shit itself.
I’m quite hung up on A Speech Limit. But you’d really have to hear the album first. And no, Mr. Stipe, for the hundredth time you cannot call it Cat Butt!!
December 11, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Rub Me, Lawnmen
December 11, 2007 at 10:54 pm
New Um Ramble.
That one’s perfect!
December 11, 2007 at 10:56 pm
We Rumble Man.
December 11, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Or, to keep in line with REM LIVE, why don’t they just call it NEW REM ALBUM?
December 11, 2007 at 11:34 pm
A new mumbler
December 11, 2007 at 11:41 pm
We Rumble Man.
sounds like something Michael and I do….
December 11, 2007 at 11:51 pm
NEW REM ALBUM:
Aw Lumbermen
December 11, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Next R.E.M. title possibilities
Momentum
Well Liked Well Hated
Tunnels & Towers
Naked
Globe of Whores
Visitor
Kill.Vox
Eclipsing
Statica
Coyote
Unmixed!Underproduced!Understood?
vengeance
December 12, 2007 at 12:06 am
More titles….. (distraction from working on a story)
The Sublime BEING
still.LIFE.artist
AMFMPM
Neurotico
Age of Insects
December 12, 2007 at 12:09 am
trivia:
Did you know that kid from the “It’s the End of the World (dot,dot,dot) And I Feel Fine” video has an Athens Georgia rockband called Music Hates You!
December 12, 2007 at 12:21 am
My response when people say ‘I hate jazz’ is:
Jazz hates You!
December 12, 2007 at 12:22 am
I could see them using Eclipsing.
December 12, 2007 at 12:27 am
hmmm, more, more I am obsessed now
Revolution Equals Music
Spank the Roosters
janet
December 12, 2007 at 12:43 am
again with the laughing out loud!!!!
That’s very Seattle…yeaaaaagghhh we come to spank the rooster…
December 12, 2007 at 12:46 am
Funnier still to call an album…janet.
Inertiaville
December 12, 2007 at 12:47 am
Strapped to the Hampster
December 12, 2007 at 1:03 am
eeeks, that singer…Lane Staley from Alice in Chains lived down the street from when I lived in Seattle’s University District when he died in his condo by himself.
He was there quite awhile before they found him. I used to see him having coffee at my favorite cafe nearby (two doors down from Bruce Lee’s old studio). He was very unassuming. I didn’t know it was him until the sexy barista, David, pointed him out to me.
December 12, 2007 at 1:14 am
he called it , Ignis ,
Down In A Hole
Man In The Box
….amongst others ……..came over the wire today that the cause of death for Kevin Dubrow in Las Vegas about a month ago was………………………………………………………………cocaine overdose …..
December 12, 2007 at 1:17 am
think I’m gonna end up buying the REM Live record before the end of the month
December 12, 2007 at 1:23 am
yeah, he did call it…
damn drugs
i guess he died on the same day as Kurt Cobain
When my out of town friends visit, I drive them by Kurt’s old house on Lake Washington. He lived right by Seattle’s peaceful and beautiful arboretum/Japanese Gardens. It is a place I go to in warmer months for solitude. I have my favorite rock I sit on that is just next to a small pond with wonderful weeds surrounding and floating in it. Although I am in the heart of big city, I am alone and there is a quietness that is comforting, soothing and refreshing.
December 12, 2007 at 2:15 am
There is a horrendous chain restaurant in the U.S. called Outback Steakhouse and the great band from Athens Georgia, Of Montreal, licensed “Wraith Pinned To The Mist And Other Games…” for it…..
Now every time I listen to them I think of their cruddy food (I have only been their a few times and that was in the 90’s) and that horrible Blooming Onion they dish out.
My apologies to my Australian friends for this embarrassing representation for your splendid land.
I forgive Of Montreal. I have nothing against music artists using their songs for jingles, but choose wisely. Avis rent a car is good company….and Stoli!
“Orange Crush” for duh, “Orange Crush.”
“Losing My Religin” for those Left Behind series….
And I Ramble
December 12, 2007 at 2:35 am
It’s funny overseas where you see things that are supposed to be representative of your country. Whenever I see Fosters beer it astounds me. No one, and I mean NO ONE drinks it here. Yet OS it’s the only Oz beer available. yech.
Does the Outback Steakhouse have kangaroos hopping all over the tables, and goannas sliding over your feet?
December 12, 2007 at 2:44 am
Mr. Cup, the answer, sadly, is yes. Yes, mate!
Yeah, about the things you see overseas that are supposed to be representative of us – that President guy – not representative of ME at all. Just sayin’
I do like that Olivia Newton John. She is just peachy, peachy. That girl is going places.
December 12, 2007 at 3:32 am
Olivia Neutron Bomb!
She’s gonna be star!
December 12, 2007 at 2:27 pm
All the way to Xanadu…
December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm
have to believe we are tragic, er magic….
December 12, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Xanadu…….cool
December 12, 2007 at 10:35 pm
I only mentioned Xanadu because it sounds much better in that statement than “Rydell High School”. I’ve actually never seen Xanadu, so O.N.J. has always been, and always will be, “Sandy” to me.
December 14, 2007 at 12:28 pm
new REM album title—-
Thrash Forward Red Disease
December 14, 2007 at 12:29 pm
or……
Black Flamenco Diamond
December 14, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I thought these days were over and done! No comments on Dec. 13th…
I don’t know what “black flamenco diamond” is an anagram for, but I like another one for the same letters:
“Damnable Nomadic Flock”
December 14, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Again, I don’t know what this is an anagram for, but a good one for “Thrash Forward Red Disease” is “Hardheaded Sirs Row Faster”.
December 14, 2007 at 8:30 pm
A Black Inflamed Condom
A Blockaded Conman Film
A Nonflammable Cock Did
A Boldfaced Milkman Con
….something there for the censors to chew over
December 14, 2007 at 8:51 pm
new R.E.M. title!:
chew
December 14, 2007 at 9:49 pm
What would Conan O’Brien do ?
December 15, 2007 at 9:21 am
To: Paul A.
Re: Comment #121
You’ll be happy to know that Jim Edmonds is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3155811
December 15, 2007 at 6:25 pm
“A lot of pop music is about stealing pocket money from children.”_______Ian Anderson, 1989
December 15, 2007 at 6:42 pm
“Follow me if I advance. Kill me if I retreat. Revenge me if I die.”__________Ngo Dinh Diem, 1954
December 15, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Edmonds in center
Giles in right
Scott Hairshirt in left
December 16, 2007 at 10:27 pm
I’m gonna DJ at the end of These Days.
December 17, 2007 at 2:08 am
Dan Fogelberg died , 56, of prostate cancer , how sad
December 17, 2007 at 1:57 pm
In Buck News….
The Crocodile Cafe – famous Seattle Club owned by Peter Buck’s ex-wife and mother of his twins – is closing.
The Minus 5 has played there many times.
http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/croc_closed
—–
Sad news about Mr. Fogelberg. I like that Christmas song he sings and I am not one for Christmas songs. I think I like it because it is tinged with melancholy and longing.
December 17, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Has the Stranger changed? I remember it being a fiercley independant paper.
December 17, 2007 at 8:20 pm
Happy birthday to Mike for the 17th! Hope you have a great day.
December 17, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Mr Cup-
The Stranger is kind of the same. Dan Savage is the Editor, so it retains some its sass. It is touted as the alternative independent weekly for Seattle. It has decent coverage of politics, art and music. Big issues in Seattle are the pricey condo explosion that is pricing out people with modern incomes and knocking down blocks of beloved clubs and bars. How many rich people are out there? I wonder what compels them to move here? Seattle has yet to feel the real estate market crunch. These Days are strange and ever changing.
R.E.M. title: DUCK BUTT
December 17, 2007 at 9:09 pm
er, by “modern incomes” i mean modest incomes, which is probably the same thing is some way…
December 17, 2007 at 9:50 pm
We have a situation where all the good live venues were closed and converted into retirement homes. There are no pubs with any character anywhere. Just shiny, reflective, overpriced glamour holes.
Real estate is beyond farcical. Tiny weatherboard workers cottages are going for $750 – 800k aud.
Every new building is ‘luxury apartments’ at an absolute minimum of 2 million bucks. One abnormally wealthy family is building a house for the princely sum of $70 million.
Crazy, crazy times. Again.
December 18, 2007 at 11:12 am
according to CNN (isn’t it sad when one has to preface a news item with “according to” ? ,I really just don’t know what to believe anymore , really don’t. I suppose the truth is out there somewhere between the extremes of viewpoints one is bombarded with every day ) the other day ,”the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, the top 1% of the richest people–can’t recall if it was the USA or the world, think it was the USA–have more total wealth than the bottom 20% of the population combined “
December 18, 2007 at 4:04 pm
This insurgency began and I missed it.
yeah, Scott. I am scared that I will be priced out of my wonderful neighborhood. I do ok, but I am not ready for my apartment to be converted into a condo. Although, some are very nice. I am not quite ready for that investment, yet.
The closing of the Crocodile Cafe is making headline news in Seattle because it where famous bands like Nirvana and Mudhoney (who I saw there) got their start. People on the local blog (called the Slog) in the Stranger, a weekly independent, even mentioned the Buckster and Scott a few times. Someone even blamed the closing on his divorce! I have a good memory of the dude from Harvey Danger accidentally spilling a little of his beer on my courdoroy coat. I don’t think he realized it. That coat was Built to Spill. HA!
It is funny because all the billboards for all the new condos going up say: “luxurious living in the heart of……..blah….” There are around 40 or more skyscrapers (some are offices and apartments) being built in Seattle. Across the skyline you see the strong arms of construction cranes flexing. This is in contrast to the sturdy and sure cranes in the port lifting and heaving huge crates from China and lands nearby it. This is not Buck’s fault….. or is it?
December 18, 2007 at 7:51 pm
We bought our house 6 years ago and had it valued a couple of weeks ago and it had doubled in price! How ridiculous – our house is really not worth that much. If we were trying to get into the house market now, we simply wouldn’t be able to. What we paid for our house 6 years ago would only get a 30 year old 1 bedroom unit today. How are young people suppose to get a start in life?
December 18, 2007 at 7:58 pm
They start by listening to R.E.M., Life and How to Live It! It is written in a Document and once you are done you get to enjoy Lifes Rich Pageant.
HOPEfully, you do not run OUT OF TIME. Don’t FRET when the WORLD IS A MONSTER. Find your Perfect Circle of acquaintances and friends. Remember Everybody Hurts, but Sweetness Follows.
Kirsten, I think I am going crazy…
to quote Radiohead “this is really happening…”
December 18, 2007 at 8:47 pm
anybody got the new Radiohead ? I’ve heard one very cool song on 94.9 FM..”where the music matters”..; ‘Jigsaw Falling Into Place’………is the song I heard.
Ignis in cordoroy , cool , hey man , where can I see your pic again ? never followed that link awhile back , I am very curious to see what you look like.
December 18, 2007 at 9:02 pm
…….if I had the money I would much prefer to have a fancy , secure luxury apartment right smack in the middle of the happening city as opposed to a big mansion in the country…..if I had to make a choice ….but then again maybe I could have both
, it would be so cool really to have a spacious high rise condo/apartment in the city , the kind where you are right in the center of the action but able at any moment to lock the door behind you and leave the madness out there if you so chose , you know?…..just walk through the front door of the building past the doorman , get into the elevator ,ride it upstairs to your own little sumptuous sanctuary ,pour yourself some liquid refreshment and go out onto the balcony , sit down and gaze out upon the peons below. the ones who have to be concerned with negotiating the thirty miles back home after the party’s over and having to make such a big production out of coming into the city in the first place, you know …? I don’t sleep I dream…..
December 18, 2007 at 9:56 pm
…..that apt on Frasier in Seattle , can you tell where it’s at in the city there, Ignis, by the view out the window ????????….one of these days I’ll make it to Seattle…….
December 18, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Scott,
my pic from my myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/ignis_sol
there is a few pics in my profile.
Yes, Frasier leaves in Queen Anne neighborhood. Seattle has Seven Hills. That is one of them on the north of town. His view, seemingly, looks south on the city. The skyline has changed a lot since that show has been on and cancelled. The building I work in, WaMu Center/Seattle Art Museum was just completed last year and it is 42 floors.
If you come to Seattle I will hang out with you and buy you a coffee! Maybe sneak in a beer or two from a brew pub? And take you buy Kurt’s old house.
I live in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.
And Frasier, I am sure, owned a codo! Damn him!
Grey’s Anatomy is set in the same ‘hood (by the Space Needle). They occasionally come to town and shoot some stuff. The roof shots from the hospital are shot from the roof of the TV station. Inside note: that neighborhood is not zoned for hospitals, that would be First Hill.
December 18, 2007 at 11:51 pm
that’s very cool , Man , would love to have a coffee with you (I drink lots of coffee) , don’t drink alcohol though , although maybe I will have relapsed by the time I get there ……:). I would still very much love to check out the scene , go out and not drink, I do that without a problem (which is kinda amazing to me really)
is that photo in your apartment ? I always imagined you with wild-assed hair BTW , guess I was wrong
…………not wild ass hair but wild-assed hair……..
December 18, 2007 at 11:59 pm
yeah, that is my apartment
i remember saying you don’t drink, i don’t want to be an enticer. i have friends who don’t drink, but still go out and have fun.
my hair was really long a couple of years ago. I go
back and forth. It IS really wild and curly right now.
i should update some photos.
LOL @ wild ass hair — my friend Michael and I have a dirty inside joke about that….LOL!
any pics of you online?
you, Kirsten?
Mr Cup?
Seattle still has a cool scene despite all the changes and griping going on… I manage to kick up the dirt.
December 19, 2007 at 11:04 am
no pics of me on line , how would I go about doing that ? I do have a few in my Kodak files.
December 19, 2007 at 11:08 am
Came very close to buyng the live record last night , had it in my hand at Wal-mart , put it back remembering that I was there to buy for other people, not myself.
December 19, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Hey — the “these days” page was 1 month old yesterday and nobody mentioned it. Oh well, the post has reached a dozen other milestones, so what’s one more?
I have the newest Radiohead album, Scott. It’s pretty good. I definitely like it better than the previous one, “Hail to the Thief”. But it’s like every other album — it takes a little while to warm up to it, and it has it’s own unique sound. Definitely worth buying (but you can get it online for nothing, of course).
December 19, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Yeah, R.E.M. Live is great. I bought it at the Borders near my office (the same one I worked at years ago). I was so busy working the Seattle LGBT Film Festival at the time, I did not listen to it until almost two weeks, one month before I watched the DVD.
i bought the Radiohead download when it came out in October, but have been unable to get it to play it. I am having issues with uploading it.
I thought I could listen to it with my iTunes, but it won’t play.
I have been busy for a couple months and did not have the time to focus on it.
I can’t wait to hear the songs.
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
December 19, 2007 at 4:33 pm
No, I don’t know what you’re doing wrong — I’m listening to the album on my computer right now (through winamp, or you can use Windows Media Player). It also works on my ipod — by just dragging and dropping the album to my ipod device in iTunes. What are the file types of the songs in your download? Mine are mp3, just the same as all of my other digital music files. Did you get them in a different format?
December 19, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Thanks lenny!
I tried Windows Media Player, too and it does not work.
When I get home tonight I will try simply dragging and dropping into my iTunes. I tried before through the actual program before. There is now a response to my inquiry about In Rainbows in my mail….
Unfortunately, my iPod (second one) was stolen. Other than my car, which was returned, that is the only “major purchase” I have had stolen. To me it was priceless because I work 1.5 miles to and from work everyday (accept with the weather really, really sucks). So, now I sing to myself. People must think I am nuts when I am singing, “do you give good head…” :0
December 19, 2007 at 4:52 pm
omg, that omiticon was accidental, I meant
(embarrased)
December 19, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Wow, I can’t believe I missed These Days’ Birthday! Happy 1 month Birthday for the 18th These Days!
And to my beautiful little baby, happy 4th birthday for today (the 20th)! RIP Billy. mwah.
December 19, 2007 at 8:11 pm
last night i dreamt that monkeys were trying to break into my childhood home after a nuclear bomb exploded.
December 19, 2007 at 8:38 pm
RIP Billy ? mwah ?
December 19, 2007 at 8:40 pm
I want you to STAAAAAAAAAAAAY BEEEEEEUUUUUUUTEEEEEFULL
Baby……..
I want you to STAAAAAAAAAAAAY American (or Australian)
Baby…….
December 19, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Congratulations Bisky, the big 500!
501 now, 165 to go…..
December 19, 2007 at 11:15 pm
I am soooooo hung over today. Had the work party yesterday. Started with martini’s at 9.30am. Ended in backward somersaults off the boat.
throb…throb…
I have no photo’s on line Ignis, but guess what? We are the same age!
I have to lie down now.
December 20, 2007 at 8:15 am
Ahhh, I knew the party would still be kicking off here. Speaking of work parties, I was the only one in a tie yesterday. Brazilians are not formal, it has to be said. Wishing you all a merry Christmas…
December 20, 2007 at 11:08 am
Happy Hanukah and Rambunctious Ramadan
December 20, 2007 at 11:11 am
the Big 500 without metabolic steroids or HGH , just a series of multitudinous unphotogenic polypeptides forming me
December 20, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Eating too much food THESE DAYS with the Holiday.
Went to the Sonics game last night and they lost to New Orleans. I drank beer.
more parties tonight, tomorrow and all through the weekend. Whiskey sours for all.
December 21, 2007 at 1:36 am
I wish……….wistfully ……….worlds away…..
December 21, 2007 at 4:27 am
Happy festivities to all.
December 21, 2007 at 10:53 am
Happy Festivus
December 21, 2007 at 1:55 pm
yeahhhh!
I could not get out bed to go to work today, so I hit the snooze alarm two times. While in bed in daze-hazey dreamworld, I thought to myself that on the next wake up, the DJ will be playing an R.E.M. song. I just FELT it. All was calm and quiet then…!
Bap, bap, bap, bap….. “Beside yourself if radio’s gonna stay…”
I stayed in bed until the next tune kicked in and began my day that will launch a four-day weekend.
Happy Festivus, the Holiday for the rest of us!
Again, check out kexp.org online, friends. Great music, diverse and you never know what is going to be played.
December 22, 2007 at 10:09 pm
What’s the difference between in-laws and outlaws ?
December 22, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Outlaws are wanted.
December 22, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Good one, Bisky.
I have a good story to share — my 15-month old daughter Ella loves music, but it seemed like my wife’s music was having more influence on Ella than my music was. (Her favorite artist from birth was Dave Matthews.) But today in the car, I plugged in my ipod, hit shuffle songs, the first song that played was “We Walk” by R.E.M. I looked in the rearview mirror and she was bouncing and bopping her head back and forth to the happy beat. It just about brought a tear to my eye. After some non-REM songs, she also enjoyed Gardening at Night. That’s my girl…
(Oddly enough, “We Walk” was included on a children’s music CD that my mother-in-law gave us, called “Mary had a little Amp”. Who said in-laws aren’t wanted?)
December 22, 2007 at 11:13 pm
there are exceptions in non-dysfunctional family units
December 23, 2007 at 10:06 am
outta my brain on the 5:15, oh
I’m outta my brain
December 23, 2007 at 11:49 am
Mexican minimum wage raised to $4.85
A day
December 23, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Happy holidays to everyone and your families. Enjoy and most importantly – keep it safe!
Ho Ho Ho
December 23, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Really! $4.85?? I’ve gotta move to Mexico….
December 24, 2007 at 5:18 pm
all born on Christmas Eve: Ricky Martin , Lemmy, and Hamid Karzai
December 25, 2007 at 3:26 pm
all born on Christmas Day:Jimmy Buffett ,Annie Lennox , Sissy Spacek ,Larry Csonka ,God
December 26, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Well, we’re slowly getting there. It might get a bit quiet here as people take holidays. I was listening to These Days yesterday – it really is an excellent song and does deserve this kind of attention.
December 27, 2007 at 11:23 am
Pink Floyd_____One Of Thse Days
(I’m gonna chop you into little pieces)
Companion piece to Careful With That Ax, Eugene
December 27, 2007 at 3:45 pm
the mountains are falling into my cereal bowl, quick get me a bigger spoon!
December 27, 2007 at 4:57 pm
I am feelin’ Stipey today.
December 27, 2007 at 10:24 pm
The strong man kicked sand into my breakfast cereal bowl
I’d spelled your name with Oatios
He messed it, messed it, messed it, messed it up.
December 27, 2007 at 10:27 pm
>>the mountains are falling into my cereal bowl, quick get me a bigger spoon!<<
The same thing might have happened to Figgy after the earthquake they had over there.
December 28, 2007 at 12:17 pm
……the world is collapsing and I’m looking for answers beyond the great beyond…..
December 28, 2007 at 2:45 pm
…answers beyond my box of Otios!
my name spelled in Otios: Ooooooo
December 30, 2007 at 5:38 pm
New Year’s Day song :
Around the Sun
I Believe
Begin The Begin
December 30, 2007 at 8:13 pm
New Years Song:
Nothing ever happens
Nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before
And we’ll all be lonely tonight
And lonely tomorrow.
December 30, 2007 at 8:38 pm
hopefully when I wake up tomorrow I will be “lonely” with some one cute.
mean cats eat parakeets….
December 30, 2007 at 8:56 pm
“nothing changes New Year’s Day” BUT ” chaaaaaaaaaaaange
is what I believe in “, actually I’m looking very much forward to 2008 , should be a very interesting year on a personal and world level…didn’t really feel this way last year
“And yesterday I saw you kissing tiny flowers
But all that lives is born to die
So I say to you that nothing really matters
And all you do is stand and cry…….”
December 31, 2007 at 5:32 am
I am up with the midnite flowers, reachin’ high up into the towers/i am up with the light of the moon, naked reflections upon a silver spoon..
will you dance with me?
December 31, 2007 at 5:39 am
SOMEONE DANCE WITH ME IN THE JAILHOUSE
I’M WEARIN’ MY RHINSTONE SHOES
I’M RIDDIN’ MY SELF OF THIS USELESS SPOUSE
I’M LISTEN TO THE EVENIN’ NEWS
YEAH YEAH….
GIMME A DIVORCE, GIMME SOME PORN
THE JURY KNOWS THAT I HAVE BEEN SWORN
I’M LIVIN’ MY LIFE WITH A JALAPENO BURN
CURIOUS BOYS ENTER ASHES INTO THE EMPTY URN
DO YA BELIEVE?
AY, DO YA BELIEVE IN LIFE?
DO YA BE LEAVE?
GIMME SOME CONCERN
ALL I NEED TO KNOW, I ALREADY LEARN
AMEN
December 31, 2007 at 5:55 am
can you indulge me
i am on the run
looming useless in the midwestern sun
two tracks are burning a hole into the ground
cigarettes light in our mysterious round
we talk of the ages, complain with our rages
we lament the future with hope that won’t last
we want these slow moments to quickly past
we are strung from the clotheslines in american heat
we are chicago, detroit we cannot be complete
and if i were to know you
for a minute or so
would i somehow annoy you
is is my time to go?
we are adorned in our favorite rags
we gather in circles under these sacred flags
and we sing, sing, sing, sing, sing.
December 31, 2007 at 6:03 am
a couple of lines are not grammatical, but they were written on the fly, can be quickly remedied, so please don’t ask me WHY!
December 31, 2007 at 6:20 am
been heading in a new direction
since aged seventeen
it’s been a lot of hell with some
heaven in between
i thought i’d get by with some bits
of my self-esteem
i’m so dark clouded, it is
like a Kafka dream
o give me give me something to believe
a dying flower with a scent of ill reprieve
i am not going down alone this time
is this my open-secret pantomime?
gah, gah, gah GAH!!!
December 31, 2007 at 12:02 pm
is that all original stuff, yours ?
December 31, 2007 at 3:10 pm
yeah, Scott it is mine. I wrote it last night directly into this blog. My guests had just left and I was unwinding with wine in my bloodstream and cheese in my stomach.
January 1, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Grey sky in one direction, Clear blue sky in the other direction
Grey sky in one direction, Clear blue sky in the other direction
Grey sky in one direction, Clear blue sky in the other direction
The sun just came out, I can’t believe it
The sun just came out, I can’t believe it
The sun just came out, I can’t believe it
Looks like everything’s gonna be OK
January 2, 2008 at 9:04 am
Happy New Year everyone. I haven’t posted a message here in a long time — I almost gave up on these days.
Nice Pink Floyd reference, Scott — One of These Days — I can’t believe I didn’t think of that sooner.
Back to work today after 12.5 days off. Now…what music to listen to at work, REM or Pink Floyd?
January 2, 2008 at 7:36 pm
OH, MY….
………..from Wikipedia
Accelerate is an album released in 2003 by American Christian pop group Jump5.
The promo website countdown to their album was probably called “fortynights.”
January 2, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Never give up on These Days, Lenny. Never.
Slowly but surely making our way to 550. I can only dream of being the one….
January 2, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Happy New Year all.
January 2, 2008 at 10:05 pm
there are three main points to this entry and you will be quizzed on the way out of the theater:
1. Happy New Year, Cup
2. Set The Controls For The Heart OF The Sun
Accelerate
3. What A Jack-Ass, Huckabee
January 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Sorry, Kristen — those of us in the Northern Hemisphere are in the dead of winter — a time for the abandonment of all hope and the listening to and quoting of Pink Floyd. Actually, I like the dead of winter — I got new skis for Christmas and can’t wait to try them out. But I have listened to a lot of Pink Floyd this week.
“Why can’t we play today; why can’t we stay that way?”
– (Name that one, Scott)
January 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm
By the way…I Heart Huckabees.
(The movie, not the candidate.)
January 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I must be out of practice here — message #545 should have read “Sorry, KIRSTEN”. And now I’m sorry again, Kirsten. (I know that I would hate if people assumed my name was spelled a different way, or even if it was by accident.)
January 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I meant message #546, not #545. Is there any other way I can add unnecessarily to the These Days message tally?
January 3, 2008 at 6:12 pm
the dead of winter — a time for the abandonment of all hope (lenny)
someone who is worth it in this murkiness
heavy, dreary skies pressing down on me
heavy, dreary skies pressing down on me
celestial entities are collapsing down on me
You won’t hear me whisper, you won’t hear me breathe
This seasonal change of mercy has choked the life out of me
January 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm
uh, Lenny, that would be ‘Remember A Day’ one of my faves from that record , almost like that one as much as ‘Seesaw; yes yes , early Floyd , those innocent short dreamy songs . no words to describe the feeling of nostalgia I get from these two songs. I’m sure you know, Lenny , how they got the name Pink Floyd ? eh ? how about Zeppelin ? do you know the story of how they got their name ?
feeling gravity’s pull , eh ,Ignis ?
Happy Birthday Stephen Stills and John Paul Jones
63 and 62 respectively
January 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm
i am feelin’ gravity crushing me…like a grape…and my wine is bitter and fruitless
yeah, Happy Birthday to Stephen and John Paul!
do you celebrate the day when your heart dies and soul evaporates?
January 3, 2008 at 8:33 pm
did JPJ raise a glass with Stipey during the AFTP sessions ….considering……the proximity of ……?
well, Ignis , Zep got Celebration Day but I don’t think it’s about that
Seatle was recently rated the nations most literate city , #2 Minneapolis.
January 3, 2008 at 8:48 pm
lenny, I once wrote verbatim the lyrics for Wish You Were Here (the song) on a bathroom stall wall while doing my business there in this bleak fiberglass autobody replacement parts plastic plant that I worked at for awhile after screwing up my first year of college, funny my foreman was pissed not so much about what I may or may not have been saying there but he was pissed about the fact that I was on the clock while doing it………and at the end of that first year of college that I screwed up so royally I wrote verbatim those same lyrics on the front page of my Physics final because I was so hopelessly failing the class ; I can’t believe to this day that I went to school initially for Engineering –I mean–I was high all the time and completely clueless, I mean you fall a little bit behind in advanced calculus and chemistry and physics and it totally snowballs into an impossibly unmanageable situation. I was such an immature child-stoner-fool then , all I did was do bongs and listen to PF Animals over and over. Not the correct formula for succeeding in Engineering, which I really wasn’t interested in anyhow, was just tryingto take a major that would get me a decent job. I was such an idiot then.
January 3, 2008 at 9:11 pm
See? I knew Pink Floyd were bad for your health!
January 3, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Hi Lenny. Don’t worry about my name, I get Kristen a lot. I also get called Catherine a fair bit too – not really sure why though…..
January 3, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Speaking of the weather: 1am New Year’s Day. Still 35 deg (C), drinking a nice cool beer, listening to Reveal. Dancing the rhu-rhu-rhu-rhu-rhumba. A perfect Summer album. What a great way to start a new year.
Hope you’re safe from those fires over there, Mr Cup. I saw them on the news last night and thought of you.
January 4, 2008 at 12:04 am
Oh, and one last thing. 1 very important thing.
HAPPY 48th BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!!
Walked down to a nearby lake at lunch time with my ipod and found a lovely spot in the shade (way too hot for sunbaking today) and over indulged in Stipiness. And come 5 O’clock, it’ll be a Michael Stipe Celebration weekend!
January 4, 2008 at 12:39 am
I knew you wanted to mention that Kirsten so I let you say it first . I’m not too far behind him ,I’ll be 48 in June , we live parallel but very seperate lives.
January 4, 2008 at 1:05 am
Thanks Scott, I appreciate that. I don’t have much else in my life…..
January 4, 2008 at 1:54 am
Safe from the fires thanks Kirsten. They are nearly always in the hills on the outskirts of the city and nearly always lit by f-wits.
It’s just frickin HOT. How many times can it hit 40 before the height of summer?
PS. Congrats on the iPod!
January 4, 2008 at 11:37 am
and interestingly we here in America are getting a real winter-like winter this year, lots of cold and snow , and for me here in SD , lots of rain (with snow in the mountains)…been a while and I love it , makes me think that perhaps the world ain’t deteriorating so quickly from Global Warming after all, maybe…a good old-fashioned winter like when I was a kid . I wonder where and how Stipey is celebrating his b-day ?? Stuff like that drives me crazy like how I’ll never see the wallpaper in David Gilmour’s master bathroom or I’ll never see what Jimmy Page’s kitchen looks like, I mean really I wonder what it looks like..??!!..But then my typical thought process always plays itself out until the next time and I get past such nonsense and realize how fortunate I am compared to the vast majority of the planet and I focus in on what I can appreciate and see.
Good Day Now.
January 4, 2008 at 2:32 pm
There has been a lot of snow in the mountains here, too. I appreciate my view from my work desk of the Olympic mountains beyond Puget Sound. Beautiful. Usually, the snow is lighter on parts of this range due to the particular climate (especially as it slopes to the Pacific Ocean), but today it looks tasty white frosting on top of a chocolate cupcake. Mostly blue skies.
I hope Michael Stipe is enjoying his own cake with frosting. Happy Birthday, Stipe!
January 4, 2008 at 4:21 pm
…………or you could put some frosting on me and…………….
January 4, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Hey Kirsten are you gonna make a birthday party cheesecake for Michael and invite all the LBs?
January 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I remember when I was a kid, out of the blue asking myself ‘What is Burt Reynolds doing RIGHT NOW?’.
Burt Reynolds. This was probably at the height of Cannonball Run’s success. But I really wanted to know.
This fame thing, I don’t get it.
Burt Reynolds.
January 4, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Burt Reynolds was in Boogie Nights directed by PT Anderson who directs There Will Be Blood which opens this weekend and I really want to see it.
Just sayin’ y’all.
I wonder what Mr Cup’s doing RIGHT NOW?
January 4, 2008 at 9:02 pm
now that’s a damn good question
I wonder if when he sees blue he sees the same blue that I see .
or if you do for that mattter , Ignis
BTW , so sorry my brother, but I’ll be rooting for the Skinnies tomorrow, nothing personal
prelude to the Steelers throwdown and hopefully the Steelers will be the ones doing the throwing down
although I have my serious doubts
January 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm
hmmm, looks like we got a lil’ competition here, buddy.
the Skins are bound to make a few false starts for sure since Qwest field is soooo g.d. loud! It is supposed to be stormy tomorrow, too (but where won’t it be stormy tomorrow in the US?).
Well, at least I know what YOU will be doing tomorrow at the same time as me…. watchin’ the game (I will have a beer on and for you, my sane and sober friend).
January 4, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Oh Ignis, that would be beyond the scope of this blog!
Nah, just kidding. I’m drinking coffee and contemplating the bigger issues facing kids today. Beach or pool?
I too pondered the ’seeing the same colour’ thing. Now be honest Bisky…did you wrap your hand in plastic to try to look through it?
January 4, 2008 at 10:26 pm
no , I did not this time…….in a way when I think of blindness I compare what it must be like to a normal person trying to imagine a totally different color, try to imagine a totally different color if you will , not a combination of existing colors or anything like that, maybe there is one out there on a different planet or something…..and if you were blind , would you rather have been blind from birth or would you rather have lost your sight sometime in your adult life ?
if you were a domesticated indoor cat who was kept inside all it’s life you wouldn’t know what you
were missing outside so maybe it would be better to be blind from birth , no ?, and you’d be more used to it , not so prone to freak out from frustration ….Imagine trying to describe the concept of color to a blind person, trying to describe red or green or purple or gold to someone who has never seen anything but darkness. weird.
Cool songs : Queens Of The Stone Age; ‘No One Knows’ and ‘Everybody Knows That You’re Insane”
January 5, 2008 at 1:39 am
i once saw a movie where a character was describing color to a blind person. he gave the young blind girl a rock that had been in boiling water and he said, “this is red….and when it cools down it will be pink.” He handed her some fluffy cotton and described it as white and so on….
January 5, 2008 at 2:04 am
right , but still , that would be so inadequate , if a person has no concept of light , having never experienced it. hard to fathom
January 5, 2008 at 10:53 am
WOW Ignis . the Swami just predicted the SEAHAWKS vs. the Pats in SBXLII, missed his reasoning , how he figures Seattle will get past Dallas I do not know… Not since 1993 has the SB been between the #1 seeded teams so I guess there is a chance that someone will be there besides NE and Dallas , although this year more than ever the two participants seem inevitable. But then again somehing happened on the way to Hillary’s “inevitabl” coronation , eh ?? Why I dislike her so I am really not sure..I do like Bill.
January 5, 2008 at 2:03 pm
rainy day dream away let the sun take a holiday
1983 a merman I should turn to be _____Hendrix
on days like these I like to drink in the morning
then smoke a little dope . but shit I don’t do that anymore . that sucks.
January 5, 2008 at 8:42 pm
goooooooooooooo Seahawks!!!!!!!
January 5, 2008 at 8:44 pm
just wait, Bisky……
January 5, 2008 at 8:48 pm
god, my city looks great on TV, eh?
January 5, 2008 at 8:49 pm
you can actually see the building I work in from the north shots of the endzone!!!
January 5, 2008 at 8:50 pm
TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
January 5, 2008 at 8:53 pm
WE WON
January 5, 2008 at 9:34 pm
the referee’s name is Scott Green
I’m figurin’ that’s a good omen
January 5, 2008 at 9:40 pm
anything Green is good, my friend.
January 6, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Columbus’s groin was filled with green death.
Word is he could’t afford health insurance.
January 6, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Thanks Mr Cup, time to move into the 21st century. Just gotta work out how to use the thing now.
I had a blind budgie, Ted. (Yes, their names WERE Bill & Ted) It was amazing to watch how clever he was at working out and remembering where things were. Billy was good at helping him out, too. Poor little baby only lived for 5 months though. The brain desease that caused his blindness took him from us.
And I must be honest, I’ve only ever watched 1 American footy game, and really didn’t get it. I don’t get soccer either. Sorry guys.
Carn the Bombers!
January 7, 2008 at 3:05 am
I don’t get it either, I just like to drink beer and get wild.
January 7, 2008 at 4:31 am
I’d like to see them take their body armor off and see how they strut it. Otherwise I find it too slow.
Will you be barracking for the Freo Bombers this year Kirsten?
January 7, 2008 at 10:51 pm
“I find it too slow”, what ? the later REM ?
January 7, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Freo Bombers? Didn’t even know they existed, but am more than happy to do so. Which league are we talking??
January 7, 2008 at 10:59 pm
And the boys in tight shorts perhaps too Ignis?
January 7, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Kirsten: AFL. The Dockers have taken coaching staff and players from the Bombers, hence the term Freo Bombers.
Bisky: The thing you call football I think. Being unaware of the subtleties of the game I was just watching as an observer. Too slow. Stop.Start.Stop.Start etc……………Nothing seemed to flow.